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Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

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Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby bingobob1955 » 20 Jan 2019 9:14

I recently purchased a vintage safe with an S&G 1870's lock. Fortunately the safe was open but locked. Having read how to determine the combination by observing the wheels I can open the lock but I'm confused why it opens with only two numbers? Of the three wheels the second and third align together when dialing in the second number. My question is has this lock been changed to open with only two numbers or is there possibly a problem with the lock?
I'll try to post photo's.
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 20 Jan 2019 9:45

Entirely possible it was changed to open on just two numbers.

Do you know if the lock is a hand change or key change?
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby bingobob1955 » 20 Jan 2019 9:58

It has a change key port. I have tried it numerous times with success but I'm hesitant to lock the door shut before knowing for sure it will open again.
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 20 Jan 2019 10:13

The only way to know for sure would be to service the lock. Disassemble, clean, inspect, lube, etc.

If its an 1870's lock who knows when the last time was it was serviced.
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby bingobob1955 » 20 Jan 2019 17:20

I would like to do that as I want to paint the safe and have the dial and lock lever re-plated but I don't know the disassembly procedure and don't know if there's even something like that available.
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 20 Jan 2019 18:32

Should be some general videos on line but it may not apply to your particular lock.

Might be best to have a tech come in and service it. Call a couple of local shops and see what they charge.

Safe locks are always easier to fix when the door is open.
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Re: Vintage 1870's S&G safe lock question

Postby bingobob1955 » 20 Jan 2019 20:43

Thanks Sammy, I'll call a few folks and get an idea what they charge. Better safe than sorry.
Regards,
Bingo
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