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Good lock with no security pins

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Good lock with no security pins

Postby Edward » 16 May 2019 9:06

Having picked all the junky, unused locks I have access to, I'd like to practice with a good lock (i.e. well designed and manufactured, tight tolerances) with no security pins. Got any suggestions?

I've ordered an Abus 83AL/50 padlock, but I suspect that its spools and serrated pins will be well beyond my abilities for weeks to come.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Squelchtone » 16 May 2019 9:10

Edward wrote:Having picked all the junky, unused locks I have access to, I'd like to practice with a good lock (i.e. well designed and manufactured, tight tolerances) with no security pins. Got any suggestions?

I've ordered an Abus 83AL/50 padlock, but I suspect that its spools and serrated pins will be well beyond my abilities for weeks to come.


find a Arrow rim or mortise 6 pin cylinder or a Falcon or Best or Arrow SFIC core.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby billdeserthills » 16 May 2019 10:32

Sargent used to make a good close tolerance lock, unfortunately since it was acquired by Assa Abloy
I think they've been loosened up a bit
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby demux » 16 May 2019 11:20

Best SFIC cores will probably have the tightest tolerances of anything you can get your hands on, but even without security pins those may well be beyond someone just starting out. But anything on the commercial side will still be much better than whatever you can get on the shelf at the local big box store. Sargent (as Bill said, maybe not as good as they used to be but still decent), Corbin Russwin, Schlage (if you want an extra challenge get a Schlage Everest, there's an extra check pin in the back that requires a special tension wrench ;-) ), Yale, etc. Keep your eyes open on eBay, you can often find unused commercial stuff for decent prices.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Edward » 17 May 2019 5:04

Thanks all, I'll keep a lookout for some of those options. Meanwhile I remembered there's an ancient, battered Lockwood padlock sitting in my she'd that I might as well try.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Squelchtone » 17 May 2019 7:33

Please take a moment to fill in your profile so we know your location. Lockwood was both an American and an Australian company so it would make sense we give you options based on your geographic area.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Edward » 17 May 2019 8:25

Squelchtone wrote:Please take a moment to fill in your profile so we know your location.


Done. Mine is from the Antipodean Lockwood, and it has resisted my attempts all night. Then again, it's fairly sketchy with its own key these days, so I won't judge my efforts too harshly just yet.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Squelchtone » 17 May 2019 18:05

You're in for a real treat mate. If you aren't already aware, the famous OzSecCon which used to be called OzLockCon is happening June 14th, 15th, and 16th in Melbourne. The Melbourne Polytechnic venue is located in West Heidelberg.

Everyone who is anyone in Australian hobby picking will be there and probably a lot of lock and pick selling and trading going on as well. Plenty of talks, competitions, and demonstrations.

https://ozseccon.com/

=)

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PS. Did you.. did you really join here back in 2006 ??? glad you're finally posting!
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby Edward » 17 May 2019 21:47

Cheers, I'll try to get down there.

I'd guess there was probably a members-only restriction on seeing attachments or searching back then, so I joined up and found what I wanted without having to post a question at the time.
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Re: Good lock with no security pins

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Jul 2019 0:56

Since you are down there, try the Lockwood locks.

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