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Looking for a plug spinner

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Looking for a plug spinner

Postby salzi684 » 14 Nov 2003 5:22

I have been thinking about purchasing a plug spinner for quite some time but I am unsure of which one to buy. I intend to use it on both standard and automotive locks. Also I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the dino plug spinner http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?0=209&1=241&3=117 I was thinking that it looked like it would work well for automotive locks.
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Postby Varjeal » 14 Nov 2003 11:15

Plug spinner on automotive??? :shock: :?

I don't think this is a good idea. Automotive locks are not meant to turn that fast, hard, or amount. I know of a couple types that would end up jamming so hard you'd destroy them. I wouldn't advise the use of a plug spinner on any automotive!
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Postby Chubby » 14 Nov 2003 14:31

There are a number of laser track openers/decoders available for vehicles from 1996 to date, with intergrated plug spinners ie: BMW,AUDI,FORD,OPEL,GOLF,VolksWagen etc that with the use of a plug spinner makes the manipulation of the locks easier and without causing any damage... :D
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Postby Varjeal » 14 Nov 2003 14:36

True enough, but those are specialized tools for specific make/models of vehicles, not generic plug spinners. The force used on a generic plug spinner is far greater on a standard lock, and generally is capable of turn the cylinder 90 degrees or more. Not many automotive locks are designed to turn more than 45 degrees...this would cause excessive strain on both linkage and the lock mechanism itself.

I guess it's another one of those, right tool for the right job, type ideas.
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Postby Chubby » 14 Nov 2003 15:00

True enough, but those are specialized tools for specific make/models of vehicles, not generic plug spinners.

Actually it's the HPC Flip-It™ plug spinner, the one I own flips approx 47º. If a spinner needs to pass any further than that , you may as well use an electric drill with a flat bit, I can just imagine someone flipping their cylinder plug past the shear line at 3000rpm......now I would pay to see that being done...LMFAO :lol:
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Postby salzi684 » 14 Nov 2003 17:27

This is where I got the idea of using the dino plug spinner with automotive locks http://www.lockmasters.com/2003cat/Auto ... eTools.pdf if anyone has any experience with those kits, could you please post your impression.

*note: the plug spinner in the picture is not specially designed for the car models.
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Postby kostassk8 » 25 Sep 2007 15:43

what is the plug spinner ????
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Postby UWSDWF » 25 Sep 2007 16:03

noooo.... now i'm getting pissed you seriously necroing threads from 2003... just to put in some useless crud?
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Postby Eyes_Only » 25 Sep 2007 20:11

I have the Dino Plug Spinner and I love it. Unlike the Rytan or the HPC spinners you can adjust the strength of the gun depending on the situation. I tried out the Rytan and HPC at the recent locksmith convention in SoCal and I didn't like either one bit. Too weak for my tastes. That cheap standard plug spinner is only second to the Dino in my opinion.
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Postby kg4boj » 30 Sep 2007 23:27

Chubby wrote:
True enough, but those are specialized tools for specific make/models of vehicles, not generic plug spinners.

Actually it's the HPC Flip-It™ plug spinner, the one I own flips approx 47º. If a spinner needs to pass any further than that , you may as well use an electric drill with a flat bit, I can just imagine someone flipping their cylinder plug past the shear line at [b]3000rpm......now I would pay to see that being done...LMFAO :lol:
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Actually that is a useful technique, not quite 300 rpm, but for many panic exit devices and some candy machines with threaded camlocks you can use a powerdrill (with a clutch set on its weakest give setting) to spin say a cheap camlock over and over if you just don't want to impression it and you've picked it once. You will have problems though with camlocks that have 4 locking points instead of 1 or 2, and the average drill for this job will spin at oh say 800 rpm, not 3000.[/b]
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Postby BrownLeopard » 9 Oct 2007 2:41

So I'm trying to figure out why you'd use a plug spinner when a jiggler set would work just as well :oops:


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Postby kg4boj » 28 Oct 2007 15:55

Tell me.... Do you have a jiggler set that will work with new Audi's? Volkswagen? BMW? Mercedes? if you do we need to talk I will find someone that will take your "jiggler" for high security 2 and 4 track sidewinder keys and give you megabucks for them.
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t shocks

Postby raimundo » 29 Oct 2007 9:06

t shocks plug spinner is a winner, look in the stickies to find out how to make it.
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