auto safe cracker...?

[jwrm22]

A brute force key search is quite easy with a little programming skill.

are you still referring to mechanical safe lock dialing to recover a combination or exhaustive key recovery for encryption algorithms such as DES, RC4, etc?

Squelchtone

I was talking about how easy it is to get motors spinning with a bit of electronics these days.
It won't take much to create a brute force auto dialer. Making a manipulator is a lot harder.

[MBI]

... but Safe cracking world is not a nice neighborhood to be in...

In what way do you mean?

[jwrm22]

... but Safe cracking world is not a nice neighborhood to be in...

In what way do you mean?

Depending on where you are. I've been told safecracking in Europe is not an easy job.
It's mostly no cure no pay and other locksmiths will take your job if they have the chance.
I've been discouraged from doing anything professional with safes.

[billdeserthills]

... but Safe cracking world is not a nice neighborhood to be in...

In what way do you mean?

Depending on where you are. I've been told safecracking in Europe is not an easy job.
It's mostly no cure no pay and other locksmiths will take your job if they have the chance.
I've been discouraged from doing anything professional with safes.

I had to open a safe once, that was in a small walk-in closet. The owner got cancer and so did his dog--the dog had been left to cr@p itself to death in the closet with the safe & it was really super disgusting--I kinda wished someone woulda taken that one from me

[MartinHewitt]

There are three types of safe opening:

1) Destroying the safe with an angle grinder
2) Drilling the safe with the possibility to repair the safe afterwards
3) Manipulation of the lock or picking it with no need to repair anything on the safe besides making perhaps a new key

Then there are companies which are general purpose locksmiths or safe dealers which do type 1 if the don't know shit or type 2 if they have some knowledge. And there are companies specialized in safe openings, which do type 2 (generally or with electronic locks) or type 3 (with mechanical locks where possible). A type 1 opening is shown here https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswi ... paltig.jpg and here https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/ ... 65120.html (it is in German, but the language of the angle grinder is international). It is really sad, that people pay for such jobs and even worse jobs, because they do not know what a good and a bad opening is.

I think a lot of profitability depends on the area where you work. If there are already a lot of other companies the profitability is lower, because you have to share jobs, but if it is just a side business it can help you make more money than what you otherwise would have. Specialized companies are not that many here. My impression is that you can live from it quite well, but it is a lot of work, a bit like assembly-line work in awkward positions, lot of driving from one safe to the next and you can earn more as a locksmith with doing larger projects.

Another specialized task is the opening of deposit boxes in banks. Probably also not bad, but difficult to get the jobs.

[demux]

A type 1 opening is shown here https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswi ... paltig.jpg and here https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/ ... 65120.html

Wow. Guess that would be the "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" approach...

[MartinHewitt]

I heard a story where locksmiths like that were called to open a real safe. They worked three days, ruined the safe, wrote an invoice over 7000 Euro and didn't even get it open! And the most awesome fact is that they were paid!