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by jeffmoss26 » 19 Jul 2018 18:36
it's good stuff. Medeco recently switched from Poxylube to Fluid Film as its factory approved lubricant. I have used it on some extremely rusty pipe fittings where nothing else helped and FF really worked!!
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by billdeserthills » 19 Jul 2018 22:01
dll932 wrote:https://www.fluid-film.com/ Sounds too good to be true, but a company that sells Medeco locks for aircraft recommends it ( https://aircraftsecurity.com/). Anyone have experience with it?
I saw an aerosol can of this earlier on ebay for like $43 
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by stratmando » 20 Jul 2018 8:32
Anyone use Boeshield T-9 for locks?, May be a Good alternative? PB Blaster I find to help with Rusted, Frozen or Corroded parts. And to keep parts from Corroding together, Never-seize. Great in a Marine Enviroment. It's a Graphite based Paste. All good Stuff
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by Lelandwelds » 27 Aug 2019 2:27
Fluid Film is cheap! It's like $25/gal or so, delivered. It's a lanolin byproduct from processing wool or something. An acquaintance from the rust belt sprayed it everywhere under his car as a rust proofer. Smells better than Ballistisol. Better than WD40 in every way I can think of.
There are a couple of different Boeshields. What is so great about this one?
I use TW25, BreakFree, or cheapest synthetic motor oil on sale. Locks aren't really a demanding application. I think even Vaseline or Vagesil would work in a pinch. I avoid graphite because it promotes mild galvanic corrosion.
Corrosion X or CorrosionX HD is the ultimate but an aerisol can is like $12 plus freight.
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by sign216 » 27 Aug 2019 16:41
Let me chime in w some other great lubes: bike aid Dri-Slide for locks and close fitting mechanisms, ACF50 for general corrosion resistance (but it's a little costly), and Dupont dry Teflon spray for general use. The dry Teflon also has really good corrosion resistance too.
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by Lelandwelds » 29 Aug 2019 10:20
sign216 wrote:Let me chime in w some other great lubes: bike aid Dri-Slide for locks and close fitting mechanisms, ACF50 for general corrosion resistance (but it's a little costly), and Dupont dry Teflon spray for general use. The dry Teflon also has really good corrosion resistance too.
Joe
I love how people with different histories and interests show me new things! Why do you prefer the thin lubes over greases? Do you like the needle applicator from Drive slide? I have used the dry PTFE from Sprayon, Superlube, and others. My complaint is getting it where needed because it doesn't move. ACF50 is more than a little expensive! Corrosion X is more reasonable. I have been impressed by that one especially around saltwater. I have had good luck with brass friendly gear grease. The thin ones not axle grease. It does "mark it's spot" like a Harley. It lasts for decades but I don't put those keys in my pocket. I like Fluid film. It's one of my choices when I replace my busted ultrasonic cleaner. (I put water in the ultrasonic and drop in rubbermaid food containers to use different solvents.
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by billdeserthills » 29 Aug 2019 11:25
I use graphite inside locks, except for on Medeco biaxial, I have powdered teflon for those
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by Lelandwelds » 29 Aug 2019 16:47
billdeserthills wrote:I use graphite inside locks, except for on Medeco biaxial, I have powdered teflon for those
Carbon fiber and graphite are on the dissimilar metal corrosion scale. If you add an electrolyte and water, your lock internals will slowly corrode. It isn't quick. Not every lock has zinc, iron, copper alloys, or stainless in the same package. Saltwater for example, is bad enough without giving your lock all the help you can. Yes, I know graphite has been used in locks for decades if not centuries. I also know the wrong gear grease will eat syncros, etc. because of ,well, chemistry.
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by billdeserthills » 29 Aug 2019 21:57
Lelandwelds wrote:billdeserthills wrote:I use graphite inside locks, except for on Medeco biaxial, I have powdered teflon for those
Carbon fiber and graphite are on the dissimilar metal corrosion scale. If you add an electrolyte and water, your lock internals will slowly corrode. It isn't quick. Not every lock has zinc, iron, copper alloys, or stainless in the same package. Saltwater for example, is bad enough without giving your lock all the help you can. Yes, I know graphite has been used in locks for decades if not centuries. I also know the wrong gear grease will eat syncros, etc. because of ,well, chemistry.
Many spray lubricants leave a sticky residue--with the dust blowing around that is a recipe for trouble, especially in a higher security lock. Graphite keeps locks working smoothly & if you think having it in a lock causes excessive wear, try using nothing at all
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by Lelandwelds » 30 Aug 2019 16:37
Hard to argue with either of those points.
Air doesn't blow through a lock so the dust is mostly just external. The better locks have better internals (duh). The cheap locks are disposable so who cares. Locks with no lube get so stiff even the correct key may not open it,
I think preferring one lube over another may be like having a favorite sports team.
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by billdeserthills » 30 Aug 2019 18:29
Lelandwelds wrote:Hard to argue with either of those points.
Air doesn't blow through a lock so the dust is mostly just external. The better locks have better internals (duh). The cheap locks are disposable so who cares. Locks with no lube get so stiff even the correct key may not open it,
I think preferring one lube over another may be like having a favorite sports team.
I've come across many locks that are so full of dust after being sprayed that they no longer work, until they are cleaned out so I think things are different where I'm at
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by Lelandwelds » 31 Aug 2019 23:02
billdeserthills wrote: I've come across many locks that are so full of dust after being sprayed that they no longer work, until they are cleaned out so I think things are different where I'm at
Another point I can't argue with. Central Texas is different than Arizona. I spent some time in West Texas dust storms but have spent much more time in and around the Gulf. My problem with graphite and some other lubes is corrosion not wear. Have you tried white graphite? Hexagonal boron nitride? It's a better lube, chemically neutral, and good to 900•F . It is used in make up, jet turbine bearing grease, semiconductors, etc. Why don't you use your dry teflon on all brands of locks?
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by billdeserthills » 31 Aug 2019 23:47
Lelandwelds wrote:billdeserthills wrote: I've come across many locks that are so full of dust after being sprayed that they no longer work, until they are cleaned out so I think things are different where I'm at
Another point I can't argue with. Central Texas is different than Arizona. I spent some time in West Texas dust storms but have spent much more time in and around the Gulf. My problem with graphite and some other lubes is corrosion not wear. Have you tried white graphite? Hexagonal boron nitride? It's a better lube, chemically neutral, and good to 900•F . It is used in make up, jet turbine bearing grease, semiconductors, etc. Why don't you use your dry teflon on all brands of locks?
I've been using graphite in the locks on my shop for 20 years and have seen no noticeable wear, so I'm afraid I don't buy that argument. Dry teflon costs more than graphite & I have pounds of graphite laying around
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by Lelandwelds » 1 Sep 2019 21:47
Fluid film is one of those lubes I have always wanted to try. I think it would work great on mowers and shredders that get pressure washed often. It's cheap enough I wouldn't mind spraying the whole blade swept area.
It must work better than WD-40 so I could use it as my lowest level lubricant. ( Mobil 1 in a metal oil can has that spot now. It is a little messy.)
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