Bike Battery lock

[JohnRobert]

Lost the key for electric bike battery locking never needed before as we always charged it with battery in now it needs a service
battery module needs to come out, not seen key for ages and my son needs it for school soon.

I went to a locksmith and he said it needs dismantling to make a new key he said if I bring the bike back when the main guy is in the shop he can pick it, its a long way off though I could pick it my self.


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[skygear]

That is a simple warded lock and could easily be picked. You could always gab some Jiggler Keys to speed up the process. I've picked harder with improvised tools. One paperclip cut in half. One side bent as a tension wrench and the other as the pick. Bend some waves and you have a rake.

Amazon Prime for the win/

https://www.amazon.com/Kaqkiasiog-Tool- ... way&sr=8-8


You could also call the manufacturer of your E-Bike. Give them the serial and ask for the key. My guess, they are all universal for that brand. Keyed Alike Systems.


You could also make your own key. Bring the bike into a hardware store and test key blanks that fit in the keyway. Grab 5-10 of them. Grab yourself an off the shelf set of files. Pick it, as stated you could. Remove the lock from the bike frame. Carefully disassemble the core, leaving the wards in place (or not, doesn't matter if you are making your own key.) Similar to key impressioning, you are going to file down one spot at a time. Little at a time. Once you get all the positions done, you have a key. Want it pretty? Take the key back to the hardware store and have them measured cut by code. Effectively, you will now have originated a key if they cut by code from your filed key.

[JohnRobert]

Thanks skygear for your great recommendations that's exactly what I am going to do you could not have put it better

Many thanks again

John

[JohnRobert]

Thanks skygear for your great recommendations that's exactly what I am going to do you could not have put it better

Many thanks again

John

That was my first thought about contacting the manufacturer but the bike is second or third hand they might not like to give out keys
they would charge me a massive processing fee $25 - $50, also I like a challenge it would be fun doing the picking

[skygear]

Thanks skygear for your great recommendations that's exactly what I am going to do you could not have put it better

Many thanks again

John

That was my first thought about contacting the manufacturer but the bike is second or third hand they might not like to give out keys
they would charge me a massive processing fee $25 - $50, also I like a challenge it would be fun doing the picking

Depending on the manufacturer. Yes. I could see that. In my experience though, they are normally sympathetic to these situations and might even send one for free. OR ask them what the bitting code is and take that to the locksmith to cut by code. Or post the bit code here and someone might take a screenshot of the Instacode cut key diagram for you.

[JohnRobert]

Can you tell by looking at the lock if the key is double or single sided

[GWiens2001]

Can you tell by looking at the lock if the key is double or single sided

Try shining a light into the keyway when you take the picture. It is too shaded for me to see if the key is single or dual sided.

Gordon

[mh]

The moving elements (tumblers) in the lock are called “wafers” (not wards) by most people.
By pushing them to the side with a pick, against their spring, you can feel if there are only wafers that need to be pushed to one side, or both sides.
That said, the key could probably be cut symmetrical anyway, so that it can be inserted both ways for convenience.

P.S.: this would be called a warded lock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warded_lock

[JohnRobert]

First thanks for all the help I have tried without success I have some jigger keys and some picks but it ain't bugging

From the picture above can you tell if I drilled it out, could I buy a new lock mechanism to install or would I ruin the whole assembly
it needs, of course, to lock again

[Squelchtone]

you mentioned your Genze ebike is 2nd or 3rd hand owner and some price that you think Genze may charge you, but have you actually contacted them to ask?

email and ask, perhaps they will just send you the key after some basic steps to proving the bike is yours, like a photo of it not attached to a bike rack and maybe the serial number of the bike, can't hurt right?

customerservice@genze.com

or perhaps keep looking for the key? it looks like this:

If you are picking or jiggling, the lock cylinder will turn to the LEFT (CCW), per the manual: "Rotate and hold the key lock to the left and pull the handle to remove the battery."



good luck
Squelchtone

[Squelchtone]

The keys that come with Genze ebike's look like a clone of an ABUS wafer lock that looks like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Abus-Padlock-B ... 3904606930
and this
https://mobilesecurity.abus.com/eng/bike/keys/key/wafer

In case you want to see a video of a bike's wafer lock being picked, check out this video:



Enjoy,
Squelchtone

[JohnRobert]

Thanks, you have been a big help

I bet the lock on eBay is the exact same lock as my bike, I was about to take the bike to locksmith this morning and by chance, I saw your reply if its same lock and I think it will be I can drill it out and replace. this has made my day.

I contacted the company with serial number about getting a key they want a receipt that I don't have, should have asked when I bought it.
but they would want a shop receipt.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Abus-Padlock-B ... 3904606930


Airbus that explains why it's so difficult to pick, and possibly locksmith would not be able to do it after me screwing around with it.

[billdeserthills]

Thanks, you have been a big help

I bet the lock on eBay is the exact same lock as my bike, I was about to take the bike to locksmith this morning and by chance, I saw your reply if its same lock and I think it will be I can drill it out and replace. this has made my day.

I contacted the company with serial number about getting a key they want a receipt that I don't have, should have asked when I bought it.
but they would want a shop receipt.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Abus-Padlock-B ... 3904606930


Airbus that explains why it's so difficult to pick, and possibly locksmith would not be able to do it after me screwing around with it.

Did you notice in your link that when you scroll down there is another dif type lock for this same bike on the left?

[JohnRobert]

Thanks for pointing this out
I did go to the store first and saw the other but I don't think it would be that one as the one I ordered has a latch so I think its the correct one but it could be the wrong one. I will soon find out I will persevere a bit more then force or drill.
I think a locksmith would be challenged and cost a lot more but I could be wrong

I have an Abus bike lock with extra keys I tried the key and it fits good but will not turn.
I don't know if this key will be any help as it isn't bugging
as you can see from the key it's not an easy lock to pick.
I tried many times with the tools I ordered.
it was a fun experience and I like a challenge total cost for tools under $10
the new lock I ordered is only $10 also thought it was coming from the UK, China instead this explains free shipping it will be a wait but in no hurry now.
Thanks for all the help




https://www.ebay.com/itm/10X-Car-Lockou ... 2749.l2649

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3264025 ... 4c4dFY34DN

[mh]

I think that's one of the ABUS selling points: You could have all your bike locks, including the one for the battery, keyed alike.