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Discovered small safe in wall of house

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Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby hutchinson_lee » 11 Nov 2019 9:54

Hi,
We've just discovered this wall safe in the wall of our 1930's semi in the UK - any suggestions of how to get into it without an angle grinder?
Regards
Lee

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby MartinHewitt » 11 Nov 2019 10:24

With wire picks.
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby Squelchtone » 11 Nov 2019 10:42

Here is the direct address to the actual photo: https://i.imgur.com/KP0NVbJ.jpg

that is what the [image] command requires to show inline images....

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby hutchinson_lee » 12 Nov 2019 7:05

Thanks Martin and Squelchtone - I've ordered a Souber, 12 piece, mortice pick set
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby MartinHewitt » 12 Nov 2019 9:20

I was thinking about something like that;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VSY11DZ7KeU
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby sign216 » 12 Nov 2019 10:06

Is there an easy way to tell if this lock is warded, or pin tumbler?

I recognize that modern construction is mainly pin tumbler, but If it's old enough, it could be a warded lock. Especially if it's in England.

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby femurat » 12 Nov 2019 16:05

Sign216, with a keyhole like that one is not a pin tumbler. May be warded but I doubt. I think it's a lever lock.

Lee, 99,9% of safes left in old houses are empty. Just saying.

Cheers :)
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby MartinHewitt » 13 Nov 2019 3:00

A lot of information can be gained by looking into the key hole. Unlikely wardings can be seen and also things like the position of the bolt plate.

Femurat, you forgot the dead spiders!
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Nov 2019 8:36

MartinHewitt wrote:Femurat, you forgot the dead spiders!


And a slip of paper with the combination of the safe if it has a combination lock.

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby MartinHewitt » 13 Nov 2019 13:17

With old safes it can also be the key of a key safe as they were selflocking.
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby sign216 » 13 Nov 2019 13:40

femurat wrote:Sign216, with a keyhole like that one is not a pin tumbler. May be warded but I doubt. I think it's a lever lock.

Lee, 99,9% of safes left in old houses are empty. Just saying.

Cheers :)


Thanks, Femurat.

Although it may be empty, everyone knows the lure of solving the challenge.

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby jbrint » 13 Nov 2019 15:22

If that were found in a wall in my home, it would haunt me like a ghost until it was opened and I knew for sure. The one you walk away from is full of cash and rare jewels. Always.
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby femurat » 13 Nov 2019 15:34

I know, right? I said it's empty. I never said not to open it. Just do it for the challenge!

Cheers :)
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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby petemoss » 13 Nov 2019 15:42

It's going to be really disappointing if you finally get it open only to discover that it isn't a safe at all but an access cover for a water cut off valve. Good luck.

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Re: Discovered small safe in wall of house

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Nov 2019 17:06

petemoss wrote:It's going to be really disappointing if you finally get it open only to discover that it isn't a safe at all but an access cover for a water cut off valve. Good luck.

-Petemoss


:lol: :lol: :lol:

That would be just my luck. I’d take the lock off and use it for another purpose if that happened.

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