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Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Model

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Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Model

Postby GWiens2001 » 30 Nov 2019 21:51

Have one of these that I got without a key. Don't know what the model or series number is. So if you know what it is, post the answer below so I can update the topic with the correct model number.

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First pick it open

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Then go for the screw that holds the cylinder in place, located here in the shackle toe hole ...

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:oops: Ummmm... Huh? What? Where the heck? It's gotta be here somewhere.

Can't find info on what model this is, so now what do I do? How to take this apart? After looking the lock over carefully, can't see any pins or screws. Being a well brought up, educated and civilized guy, I did the most logical thing that came to mind.

Hammer and punch. :twisted:

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:shock: It worked! And yes, this lock is intended for the core to be friction fit.

Once you have the lock core out, you can look inside where the core was located, you can see the pawl.

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Close the shackle and turn the actuator to lock the shackle.

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Now to remove the part that keeps the shackle spring in place. Push the shackle down and tap it with something soft to drive down the parts.

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At this point the pawl will be able to be removed.

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The shackle will lift out with the shackle spring.

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Here is the pawl placed on the lock core in the unlocked position

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And in the locked position

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Reassembly is in the reverse order.

Gordon
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Re: Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Mo

Postby petemoss » 1 Dec 2019 12:42

Interesting breakdown Gordon. So does that mean that the core is not locked into the lock body in any way other than friction? I'm wondering if this would allow someone to use something to pull the core and then press it back in, all in a totally nondestructive way, without ever unlocking the lock?
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Re: Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Mo

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Dec 2019 14:14

petemoss wrote:Interesting breakdown Gordon. So does that mean that the core is not locked into the lock body in any way other than friction? I'm wondering if this would allow someone to use something to pull the core and then press it back in, all in a totally nondestructive way, without ever unlocking the lock?


Without unlocking the lock cylinder first, it probably wouldn’t work. To pull the core, you would have to do something destructive to get a grip. Can’t go into destructive entry outside the advanced forums.

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Re: Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Mo

Postby jeffmoss26 » 1 Dec 2019 18:29

Well done, Gordonne!
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Re: Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Mo

Postby demux » 2 Dec 2019 11:08

GWiens2001 wrote:Without unlocking the lock cylinder first, it probably wouldn’t work. To pull the core, you would have to do something destructive to get a grip.


Not necessarily. You could use a lockout key to grab one or more of the pins and pull that way. Then recover your lockout key by disassembling the cylinder once removed. It's not completely covert as it would leave some evidence on the pins, but that probably wouldn't be noticed by the average user...
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Re: Surprisingly Easy American Padlock Disassembly, Older Mo

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Dec 2019 12:23

That may work, but it is a tight friction fit.

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