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American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

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American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby Mc_Fly » 12 Dec 2019 10:54

I am from spain and i get an american padlock. In the box its an sticker that says that have chemicals that may cause cancer and other birth harms...

Whats this? Thanks
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby Squelchtone » 12 Dec 2019 11:08

Mc_Fly wrote:I am from spain and i get an american padlock. In the box its an sticker that says that have chemicals that may cause cancer and other birth harms...

Whats this? Thanks


It is probably for Safety Compliance with the State of California where everything causes cancer. Could we see a photo of your warning sticker please?

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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby Mc_Fly » 12 Dec 2019 12:19

xD Yes it says something about the state of California.
Im trying to put a photo but i cant.
I will try to use a hosting service.
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby Squelchtone » 12 Dec 2019 12:33

It may be related to Lead (Pb)(Plomo en Espanol) element in some keys and perhaps other parts as well

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-lockyer-sues-key-manufacturers-over-failure-warn-consumers

California law makers are crazy for anything potentially causing cancer.

"...Keys generally are made of brass containing 2 % lead which makes them easier to cut. Some keys, including many car keys, are steel and contain only trace amounts of lead. Chrome-plated keys also produce lower exposure to lead...."

"...The 13 companies named in the Proposition 65 civil lawsuit filed in the San Francisco Superior Court are: Ilco Unican Corp., Master Lock Co., Schlage Lock Co., Kwikset Corp., Best Lock Corp., Arrow Lock Manufacturing Co., Weiser Lock Corp., Dexter Co., Jet Hardware Manufacturing Co., Chicago Lock Co., Olympus Lock, Medeco Security Locks, and American Lock Co...."
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby pemlock » 12 Dec 2019 13:18

Lead is really bad for you. A very nasty poison which accumulates in the body, so there are good reasons to minimize the use.

However, I've never heard that it would cause cancer.
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby Squelchtone » 12 Dec 2019 16:18

pemlock wrote:Lead is really bad for you. A very nasty poison which accumulates in the body, so there are good reasons to minimize the use.

However, I've never heard that it would cause cancer.


You are correct about it not causing cancer, I read some more and it seems companies are putting a warning on their products just in case something in their product contains one of the many things listed in Proposition 65 as being potentially harmful because they may get in trouble if even a trace amount is found.

Here is what one company wrote on their blog:

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The State of California requires us by law to include the following warning on our products.

"This product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm,"

We provide the warning in order to comply with this California right-to-know law.

This warning is the result of a law passed in California in 1986, referred to as the California Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986, or more generally referred to as "Proposition 65."


Why do we need to include this warning? Annex products wish to comply with all applicable laws, including Proposition 65. With the way Proposition 65 is structured, however, it is not possible to ascertain, with 100% scientific certainty, whether or not a particular product requires a warning for any one of the hundreds of chemicals on the Proposition 65 list. At the same time, the law allows any private person “in the public interest” – so-called private bounty hunters – to sue companies to enforce the law, and to keep a percentage of the penalties imposed. The law’s lack of certainty about when to warn is often exploited by these bounty hunters, who file thousands of Proposition 65 lawsuits every year. Penalties can be very high; the cost of defending a case also is very high.

As a result of the potential penalties and the current private enforcement climate, we, as well as many other manufacturers, have elected to provide the Proposition 65 notice out of an abundance of caution in order to ensure compliance and avoid the potential for liability. It is not financially possible for us to constantly test our materials for traces of every chemical in the California Proposition 65 warning list.

The warning does not mean that our products actually will cause any harm. Moreover, a Proposition 65 warning does not mean a product is in violation of any product-safety standards or requirements. In fact, the California government has clarified that “the fact that a product bears a Proposition 65 warning does not mean by itself that the product is unsafe.” The Californian government has also explained, “You could think of Proposition 65 more as a ‘right to know’ law than a pure product safety law.” See http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/background/p65plain.html.
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby petemoss » 12 Dec 2019 16:59

So, it sounds like basically every product sold in California, that is made of metal or chemicals, has this warning stuck on it out of an abundance of caution agains litigation, thereby making the warning useless in practice.
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby jwrm22 » 12 Dec 2019 17:10

If you read the warnings carefully lead only causes cancer in California.
I've got a few products with the warning like leaded solder, piece of lead etc.

Lead in brass is stable and you'll not transfer much from it.
Brass water pipes are still allowed to contain lead in Europe. For hot water (faster transfer of lead to water) you'll need the 'low lead' variant.
(Don't take health advise from a stranger.)

As a lockie it might be something to be atleast aware of.
More dangerous is brass dust, cleaning chemicals and more. (Stabbed myself in the finger as a stubborn circlip did not remove easily.)
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby GWiens2001 » 12 Dec 2019 17:40

Cancer in this product has been known to cause the state of California.

That is how my son refers to that warning. :mrgreen:

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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby demux » 17 Dec 2019 13:10

GWiens2001 wrote:Cancer in this product has been known to cause the state of California.

That is how my son refers to that warning. :mrgreen:


100% of the people diagnosed with cancer in California had come into contact with dihydrogen monoxide within the last 10 years. Wonder if that's on the list. :wink:
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Re: American lock a1106 cancer? Wtf?

Postby GWiens2001 » 17 Dec 2019 14:55

demux wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:Cancer in this product has been known to cause the state of California.

That is how my son refers to that warning. :mrgreen:


100% of the people diagnosed with cancer in California had come into contact with dihydrogen monoxide within the last 10 years. Wonder if that's on the list. :wink:


Yep. Nasty stuff. For those not familiar with it, here is more info.

But there are two sides to everything. Here is the other side of the argument.

Always best to be educated on a subject. ;)

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