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ABUS 145/40

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ABUS 145/40

Postby nothumbs » 12 Feb 2020 18:49

Recently came across one of these and needed to decode the combo.

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Since there are four wheels, that's 10,000 possible combinations. So a straight brute force try all the combinations in sequence would be tedious. It turns out this lock employs false gates on all four wheels, spaced every other number. It's easy to feel these gates, but not so easy to distinguish between false gates and the true gate on each wheel. I've viewed some videos where others do supply their methods for discriminating between the false gates and the true gate; I guess my hands are not that trained.

However, half the numbers on each wheel can be excluded since they represent no gate. That changes the possible combinations from 10x10x10x10 = 10,000 to 5x5x5x5 = 625, a significant reduction in trials required to decode a given lock. This to me seems to be a design flaw in the lock.
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Re: ABUS 145/40

Postby GWiens2001 » 12 Feb 2020 22:14

nothumbs wrote:Recently came across one of these and needed to decode the combo...

...It turns out this lock employs false gates on all four wheels, spaced every other number. It's easy to feel these gates, but not so easy to distinguish between false gates and the true gate on each wheel. However, half the numbers on each wheel can be excluded since they represent no gate.

That changes the possible combinations from 10x10x10x10 = 10,000 to 5x5x5x5 = 625, a significant reduction in trials required to decode a given lock. This to me seems to be a design flaw in the lock.


Good logic.

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Re: ABUS 145/40

Postby femurat » 13 Feb 2020 4:08

nothumbs wrote:However, half the numbers on each wheel can be excluded since they represent no gate.


You mean the numbers are not aligned correctly with the index?

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Re: ABUS 145/40

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Feb 2020 5:33

femurat wrote:
nothumbs wrote:However, half the numbers on each wheel can be excluded since they represent no gate.


You mean the numbers are not aligned correctly with the index?

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He means that since there are only gates or false gates on every other number, you don't need to try numbers without gates.

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Re: ABUS 145/40

Postby femurat » 13 Feb 2020 6:09

Got it, thanks Gordon! Dunno why, but I imagined half of the false gates could be ignored. Now everything is clear.

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