European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.
by bumpyraker » 18 May 2020 8:21
Hello, I was recently gifted an old Abloy padlock (probably a 350, but it's unmarked) that is locked. I have no key for it. I SNIP!!!
Destructive entry discussion is not permitted on the open forum. Sorry guys, gotta cut some stuff out.
GWiens2001 - AdminWhat is the proper name for this ring that holds the core into an Abloy padlock? Also, the lock does not have a hole in the side that would normally allow access to the grub screw to remove the "retaining ring". All other images and video's of Abloy padlocks I've been have this hole.  ] Can anyone explain how the core is normally removed? Thank you!
-
bumpyraker
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: 18 May 2020 8:08
by Squelchtone » 18 May 2020 11:54
Your core is probably pressed in using a one time snap ring. best of luck drilling out the ring or finding another replacement anywhere...
Why not just give the padlock to the locksmith who is going to be cutting you a key, and let them do everything. Unless it is the half moon Classic shape, the profile discs inside may be to a restricted key profile that even the locksmith cannot get key blanks for.
If we saw actual photos of your Abloy padlock from bottom and sides we could give you better advice. upload photos to imgur or photobucker and Copy/Paste the link in your reply here.
Squelchtone
-

Squelchtone
- Site Admin
-
- Posts: 11307
- Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
- Location: right behind you.
by Raymond » 18 May 2020 22:56
I agree with your identification of his description. I once took on his exact task, to remove the disk retainer, make a key, and PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. It wasn't easy because I had no idea what I was doing.
SNIP!!!
Destructive entry discussion is not permitted on the open forum. Sorry guys, gotta cut some stuff out.
GWiens2001 - Admin
The spring clip luckily remained in one piece. After making the key by hand, I made a new retainer. I put the retainer over a bolt and turned it with a drill holding a file up to it. I cut the groove around it with a hack saw blade, and put the whole thing back together. It wasn't pretty but it worked.
This will not be an easy job. But, it will be a learning experience. GOOD LUCK.
Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool. Wisdom is not just in determining how to do something, but also includes determining whether it should be done at all.
-
Raymond
-
- Posts: 1357
- Joined: 18 Jan 2004 23:34
- Location: Far West Texas
by bumpyraker » 19 May 2020 3:49
Squelchtone wrote:Why not just give the padlock to the locksmith who is going to be cutting you a key, and let them do everything. Unless it is the half moon Classic shape, the profile discs inside may be to a restricted key profile that even the locksmith cannot get key blanks for.
If we saw actual photos of your Abloy padlock from bottom and sides we could give you better advice. upload photos to imgur or photobucker and Copy/Paste the link in your reply here.
Squelchtone
It's half moon classic, but I checked the profile disc and it does have a High Profile disc to restrict the key. However, I think I've found the correct blank online so I've ordered one to check. Here is the actual lock.    I'm friendly with my local locksmith but I'm just doing this for the fun / learning / satisfaction so would rather DIY it. Cheers!
-
bumpyraker
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: 18 May 2020 8:08
by Squelchtone » 19 May 2020 4:55
God, that thing is chunky. What a unit. So interesting that it doesn't have a model number. I expected a 1970's old brass Abloy, this design is pretty modern.
I can see now why you'd like to get it operational. I believe it is their non-rekeyable version, I reached out to a friend to ask how one would yank out the core.
-

Squelchtone
- Site Admin
-
- Posts: 11307
- Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
- Location: right behind you.
by bumpyraker » 19 May 2020 15:08
Cheers! Any info would be good, before I start messing it up with the drill.
SNIP!!!
Destructive entry discussion is not permitted on the open forum. Sorry guys, gotta cut some stuff out.
GWiens2001 - Admin
However if the retaining ring spins it won't work.
-
bumpyraker
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: 18 May 2020 8:08
by GWiens2001 » 19 May 2020 20:06
I hated to be the party pooper. But had to do it. The question was answered, and the OP saw it. But please, folks, no Destructive Entry on the public forum.
Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
-

GWiens2001
- Site Admin
-
- Posts: 7550
- Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
- Location: Arizona, United States
by Wizer » 21 May 2020 1:44
I have no shortcut for disassembling this. But a fun fact of those older Abloy padlocks: You can not use those plastic colour codes that slip on the bow of key because the keyway is so deep in the lockbody that there is no room for extra 1,5mm of plastic. I have had key copies returned to me because they didn´t work. Allways remember to ask what kind of a lock is in question!
-

Wizer
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: 13 Jun 2009 3:54
- Location: Finland
by Locknut80 » 3 Jul 2020 11:10
I recently dismantled an Abloy 350 padlock that I own (with Protec keyway) just for fun and can post an image of it in bits if it helps or anybody is interested. Looks like the model in those pictures is using the Abloy classic keyway. Do you mean what is the cylinder retaining plug referred to as? In which case I think it's simply referred to as a cylinder plug. The modern Abloy plugs have slots in them which allows them to be removed easily (using a coin or thick washer for example) once the retaining set screw is removed (which of course requires the padlock to be in the unlocked position and the shackle open), but the padlock in the images doesn't have this feature in the plug, so maybe the design has been changed slightly over time.
-
Locknut80
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: 3 Jul 2020 10:33
Return to European Locks, Picks and Hardware
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests
|