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Antique Diebold Safe

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Antique Diebold Safe

Postby skubadad » 4 Jun 2020 17:06

Hi.
I purchased an older historic home. The previous owner was a safe collector and he actually left me one if his antique safes. Unfortunately I don't have room for it anymore and must get rid of it. I have a plan to get it out to my front porch and use my loader to get it from there. My loader will safely lift 2500lbs but I've read where this safe may weigh as much as 3600lbs. Does anyone know if that's the case.

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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 4 Jun 2020 18:09

Dont know for sure but gut call is yes, its , more than 2500 pounds.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby GWiens2001 » 4 Jun 2020 18:50

Wish I could afford to get that beauty from you. And yes, well over the 2500 pounds limit.

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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby 00247 » 4 Jun 2020 21:06

Not so fast... This looks to be an older Diebold which seems to be of a smaller size then the later lug door models which were around 3500#. Please post up some measurements, especially of the upper body, but including overall height. I would assume it is made of manganese steel. I have a similar sized manganese Victor Cannonball and a National lug door and both come in at the low 2000#. A slightly smaller Mosler screw door is under 1800#.

So unless the measurements are larger, or the wall thickness is substantially thicker I would guess you are under 2500#. The loader will let you know in a hurry. Pay attention to groans! lol

Now my double door Mosler screw door is another matter. At over 4000#, any moving requires some serious effort.

Where are you located? That safe would be right at home here.
You call that a safe? Let me show you a real safe...
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby skubadad » 5 Jun 2020 6:09

00247 wrote:Not so fast... This looks to be an older Diebold which seems to be of a smaller size then the later lug door models which were around 3500#. Please post up some measurements, especially of the upper body, but including overall height. I would assume it is made of manganese steel. I have a similar sized manganese Victor Cannonball and a National lug door and both come in at the low 2000#. A slightly smaller Mosler screw door is under 1800#.

So unless the measurements are larger, or the wall thickness is substantially thicker I would guess you are under 2500#. The loader will let you know in a hurry. Pay attention to groans! lol

Now my double door Mosler screw door is another matter. At over 4000#, any moving requires some serious effort.

Where are you located? That safe would be right at home here.


It's 46" high by 26" wide. The top portion is 18" deep and the pedastool is slightly deeper at 25". I may have access to a forktruck capable of lifting 5000# but it's a hassle to get it here.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby skubadad » 5 Jun 2020 6:10

GWiens2001 wrote:Wish I could afford to get that beauty from you. And yes, well over the 2500 pounds limit.

Gordon


You may be surprised at how affordable it is.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby GWiens2001 » 5 Jun 2020 8:06

skubadad wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:Wish I could afford to get that beauty from you. And yes, well over the 2500 pounds limit.

Gordon


You may be surprised at how affordable it is.


But I would not be surprised at how unaffordable it would be to ship it across the US to Arizona. Maybe if we covered it with USPS large flat rate boxes, we could trick the post office into delivering it. :twisted:

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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby djed » 5 Jun 2020 12:17

Where is the safe located?

I own a similar safe and I would guess mine is 3,500 - 4,000 lbs.

I believe the door is about 600lbs.

Manganese is deceptively heavy.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby skubadad » 5 Jun 2020 13:57

djed wrote:Where is the safe located?

I own a similar safe and I would guess mine is 3,500 - 4,000 lbs.

I believe the door is about 600lbs.

Manganese is deceptively heavy.

Alabama. You can tell the door is extremely heavy when you swing it open/closed.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby skubadad » 13 Jun 2020 15:10

Just to close this out...I never found out the actual weight. I went with the highest figure and had a 5K forklift take it off my porch. It was an adventure moving it to the porch and onto a custom built pallet but it was a successful move with no injuries or damage. Hopefully the new owner will get as much joy out of as we did.
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Jun 2020 15:54

Thank you for the final update.

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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 13 Jun 2020 18:49

skubadad wrote:Just to close this out...I never found out the actual weight. I went with the highest figure and had a 5K forklift take it off my porch. It was an adventure moving it to the porch and onto a custom built pallet but it was a successful move with no injuries or damage. Hopefully the new owner will get as much joy out of as we did.



As long as you can count to twenty on your fingers and toes when your done its a good safe move. (Internet version)

Glad it found a new happy home...
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby L4R3L2 » 13 Jun 2020 21:47

OMG! Do you have any idea what the scrap value would have been on that thing?!
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby L4R3L2 » 13 Jun 2020 21:48

:shock: :wink: 8)
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Re: Antique Diebold Safe

Postby L4R3L2 » 14 Jun 2020 10:18

I want to clarify that I was just kidding. I get a warm feeling inside when I see these old safes preserved. Thankyou for finding it a good home. It's gorgeous, original paint and all!

Also, I'm not certain, but the alloys used in the cannonball safes may make them unrecyclable anyhow. I know that is the case for old, concrete filled fire safes, and this may be why we see so many of them still available compared to the iron and steel burglary resistive safes of old.
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