Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Lost key for Edwardian safe - what tools are recommended to

Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
Forum rules
You are posting this in This Old Safe, a public area of the forum.

Safe manipulation discussion is allowed, but safe drilling or other destructive entry is only allowed in the Advanced - Safes and Safe Locks area.

If you are a guest of the forum and have a safe you need to open, but you do not have the combination, we cannot tell you how or where to drill it.

Lost key for Edwardian safe - what tools are recommended to

Postby Lmw93 » 19 Aug 2020 8:18

Hi

Lost the key to our Edwardian safe, I have included a picture of the safe and the keyhole. The key looked similar to the pictures attached and that of no.10 on the grouped photo. It had a swastika design shape.

What tools are recommended for getting into this safe please?

Thanks



https://ibb.co/x5J1mGm
https://ibb.co/WVNpjk7
https://ibb.co/RD2bVsN
https://ibb.co/NSs5LY7
Lmw93
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 17 Aug 2020 11:12

Re: Lost key for Edwardian safe - what tools are recommended

Postby GWiens2001 » 19 Aug 2020 9:30

I would strongly recommend a true locksmith.

There are ways to make a key for it, and a real locksmith should have no real problems making one. The process is not that difficult, but if you use excessive force or improper movements you risk damaging the internals of the lock.

That is a warded lock. The internal parts of the lock (the wards) do not move. It is only once the key blade is past the first part of the wards that the locking bolt is engaged and can be moved.

Keeping in mind that the internal parts do not move, that should tell you to not use any force other than what you are used to using when turning the key.

You can get or make a key blank that fits into the lock.
-Use candle soot or a Sharpe marker to coat the front edge, top and sides of the key blade.
-Insert the key and turn [b]lightly[\b] until the key is stopped by the wards.
-[b]Lightly[\b] lift and lower the key a couple of times.
-Release tension on the key and turn it back to the removal position.
-Remove the key and look for places where the key has had the spot or ink scraped off. The first place to look is on the leading edge of the key blade. If there are marks on the leading edge, file or use a coping saw to cut ONLY the places on the leading edge of the key blade. Then re-ink the blank and repeat until there are no marks on the leading edge. [b]Do Not file the marks on the top or sides of the blank until there are no more marks on the leading edge of the key when you do the lifting and lowering (jiggling) the key blank.

Once there are no more marks on the leading edge of the key, then repeat the process for marks on the sides and top of the key blade. You may need to use a drill to start cuts on the side of the blade.

Or you can do as I first suggested and contact a real locksmith.

Keep us posted!

Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
User avatar
GWiens2001
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7550
Joined: 3 Sep 2012 16:24
Location: Arizona, United States

Re: Lost key for Edwardian safe - what tools are recommended

Postby Lmw93 » 19 Aug 2020 10:25

Thanks for your reply. I think I might try to make a key from a blank but how do i determine the size (width x length). Is thee any way of measuring?
Lmw93
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 17 Aug 2020 11:12

Re: Lost key for Edwardian safe - what tools are recommended

Postby Squelchtone » 19 Aug 2020 10:46

Lmw93 wrote:Thanks for your reply. I think I might try to make a key from a blank but how do i determine the size (width x length). Is thee any way of measuring?


seriously, call a local locksmith shop for this, I know everything is D I Y these days, but this job ain't one of them if you are a total beginner.

Squelchtone
Image
User avatar
Squelchtone
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11307
Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
Location: right behind you.


Return to This Old Safe

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests