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"Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

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"Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby Peter Martin » 26 Jul 2020 20:09

This looked interesting: "Basic Master Keying Manual".
Was curious if anyone had read it or had an opinion on yhe HPC materials.
It's on sale for $18.

Pete
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Re: "Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby Evan » 7 Sep 2020 17:42

Pete:

What aspects of Masterkeying were you looking to learn about ?

~~ Evan
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Re: "Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby Peter Martin » 9 Sep 2020 22:50

I'd like to get a grasp on the basics. Simple system development and understanding how to minimize "cross-keying" combinations (and which key pinning combinations MACS eliminates).
I'd prefer to learn to lay out an old "paper" generated system before just relying in a computer program to generate one for me.
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Re: "Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby demux » 10 Sep 2020 11:08

Peter Martin wrote:I'd like to get a grasp on the basics. Simple system development and understanding how to minimize "cross-keying" combinations (and which key pinning combinations MACS eliminates).
I'd prefer to learn to lay out an old "paper" generated system before just relying in a computer program to generate one for me.
Pete


The math is not hard, assuming you're not doing anything fancy like rotating constant, maison keying, etc. The important points are to decide at the outset how large the system will be (how many levels and how many change keys per master). Those parameters are hard to alter later, so always leave yourself extra room. Then decide which chambers to hold and which to progress. For the latter, progress the chamber by the step increment for the chosen system.

For example, a simple Schlage (2 step) system, one level, with 4 changes per master might look like:

Top master key (TMK): 11111
Change keys: 31111, 51111, 71111, 91111 (last one violates MACS though)

A two level system, 4 changes per master:

TMK: 11111
Master keys: 31111, 51111, 71111, 91111 (violates MACS)
Change keys under master 31111: 33111, 35111, 37111, 39111 (violates MACS)

You get the idea. The important points to remember is that the TMK has all cuts at the master level, change keys have 0 cuts at the master level, and everything in between determines what level the master key is at. There are lots of terms to describe those relationships. I like using TMK and change key because they are unambiguous no matter the size or complexity of the system. A master key may be a master, grand master, great grand master, great great grand master, etc. depending on the system size and where it fits in. For large systems I like row master, vertical group master (or column master), page master, grand page master, etc to describe keys that have 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. cuts on the TMK bitting. This goes back to manually laying out master systems in grids on paper.

Happy to answer any more specific questions if you have any.
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Re: "Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby 1d4 » 10 Sep 2020 19:12

As Demux laid out, the TPP (Total Position Progression) method of master keying is the way to start out. If you can add and subtract, you can master pin a lock. After you have that down, you should learn about the more advanced concepts in the world of master keying. It is important to learn how keys are named and labeled within a system. There is a universally accepted standard for this. You should be able to know what is meant by a key with a blind code such as A, AA, AB, AB25, AA4X, XAA1, etc. Learn about the Rotating Constant Method and how it differs from TPP. Learn about what the following terms refer to: maison Keying, incidental masters, phantom masters, line masters, block masters, group masters, etc. Learn which brands allow for a 1 step system and which ones require a 2 step system. Learn how even/odd parity is observed. Learn what the Dayton Method is.

There is this sticky post here on the forums:
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=62052

There are some good articles on the locksmithledger website as well:

https://www.locksmithledger.com/keys-to ... he-numbers
(For a great comprehensive understanding of masterkeying, check out the full length book "Masterkeying By The Numbers" by Billy B Edwards)

https://www.locksmithledger.com/keys-to ... ter-keying

and "The Definitive Guide to RCM - Rotating Constant Method of Master Keying" by Don Oshall.

Good luck!
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Re: "Basic Master Keying" by HPC Learning Center

Postby demux » 11 Sep 2020 8:13

1d4, good suggestion to also learn about standard key symbols. Peter, if you're getting into more advanced key systems, I'd add one more symbol/term to that list: SKD, or single keyed different. While not technically part of the master system, it's something you're likely to encounter if working on a large institutional system. It's also something very useful to know about if designing such a system.
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