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Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

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Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby Sir Ken » 5 Dec 2020 15:50

Is this a safe lock that a novice would be able to figure out the combination? I think I know the answer is "no" but thought I would ask.

You locksmiths out there, is this something I would have to bring to you or would a locksmith tackle this job on site?

I've contacted the owner who says that their grandmother has forgotten the combination but that both doors are open and everything moves freely.

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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby femurat » 5 Dec 2020 17:30

Do not close the door!

Yes, you can figure out the combination. A Locksmith would also service the safe and make sure everything works fine. You can just find the combination by carefully studying the dial, with the door open. You have only one chance. If you fail, be ready to disassemble the inside of the door and the lock cover.

Is not an easy task but can be done. Look for similar safes restorations in "this old safe" area of the forum and see for yourself how these safes work and are made.

Whatever you do, test the combination at least three times with the door open before closing the safe. And then let the owner try it another three time before closing the door.

Good luck :)
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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby Sir Ken » 5 Dec 2020 17:44

The current owner says it’s been sitting inside for years and would image that people have been spinning the dials every time they walk by. I’m afraid that it’s going to take the disassembly process to figure the combo out. I’m just debating on the purchase and if it’s something I want to attempt cleaning up. Going to take a flatbed tow truck at a minimum to deliver. I’m seeing weights of 3600 lbs from what I’ve read online.
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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby femurat » 5 Dec 2020 17:48

Well, if its going to be your safe, the answer is just: yes, you can do it!

Cheers :)
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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby GWiens2001 » 5 Dec 2020 18:00

Make sure your floor can take the load.

Seriously. Make sure your floor can take the load. That would be the ultimate addition to the Do Not Drop This Lock (Safe) On Your Foot Collection.

Other than that, yes, it is possible to figure out the combination. Make sure the time lock movements are functional before you try using them.

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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby Sir Ken » 5 Dec 2020 19:21

GWiens2001 wrote:Make sure the time lock movements are functional before you try using them.

Gordon


I would be less than clueless on how to check that but I’m informed that all parts are functioning. Is it a “pass” situation if the clock mechanism is in a state of disrepair? It’s been outside but under a carport for the last year and closed (unlocked).
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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby GWiens2001 » 5 Dec 2020 23:53

Sir Ken wrote:... Is it a “pass” situation if the clock mechanism is in a state of disrepair? It’s been outside but under a carport for the last year and closed (unlocked).


Only if you want to open the safe again.

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Re: Locksmith or novice job here, unlocked safe.

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 6 Dec 2020 8:27

As others have said, make sure your floor will handle that load if its going anywhere other than concrete slab. Get an engineer to compute floor load limit if needed.

I would seriously suggest get AN OLD TIMEY SAFE TECH to come out and inspect/service it for you.

Thats a nice safe and it would be a shame to have to drill it...
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