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Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

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Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby pickmonger » 29 Jan 2021 13:50

16 year old blamed for thefts because dad has master keyed all properties and he knows where the keys are.(He works in the rental office)

Son is very wealthy himself he works hard, Dad set him up with investments.Off to University in a could of years for MBA and Law he doesn't need money and wouldn't risk his future.Criminal record like this would prevent becoming a lawyer and commodities trader.

Would you automatically call BS if he said the internet teaches you how to dissemble a Grand mastered lock,decode the pins and have the magic wand to enter any lock on the mastered system.Seems every kid on you tube knows this secret.

Master key rights amplification.

I know 99.9 % of locksmiths are super honest and ethical but ...
How many locksmiths use their skills for jewel theft and safe cracking?

Do any of you know a locksmith that if accused of theft you might think maybe?
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby Squelchtone » 29 Jan 2021 14:27

Is this your landlord's son or is this from an article somewhere?
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby pickmonger » 29 Jan 2021 15:21

Friend in Hamilton Ontario where I live

I worked in the rental office of other buildings and have become almost paranoid given my access level in peoples lives
of being accused of abusing my access to keys and personal credit information and alarm codes etc.

I need to learn how to mitigate risk of being blamed for people screwing over others when I knew so much about their
"sensitive" info.

Does Aloa have a course on preventing being wrongly accused of abusing a locksmiths skills and knowledge?
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby Squelchtone » 29 Jan 2021 16:04

This reminds of a time when I installed security cameras for a living and we were asked to put a hidden camera in an apartment complex basement laundry room.

It turns out the apartment buildings resident prostitute/druggie did some favors *wink wink* for one of the residents who was a young man and a locksmith in the area, and he made/gave her the ACE key for the top of the washing machine so she could flip the switch on the Verical 8 mechanism and get free laundry. Our video showed what was happening within a day of the camera being installed.

I don't recall what happened to the locksmith involved..

sad when it happens.
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby pickmonger » 2 Feb 2021 19:51

due to copyright issues I can't get into details but there are several databases of criminal cases that allow searching b section of statute violated

the report I saw showed 1000's of cases and convictions of locksmiths and wannabees

I feel locksmiths need really strong insurance and bail bondsmen and a working relationship with a good legal beagle.

My lawyer ( brother in-law) gave me and buddies quite the crash course on handling on law and dealing with the police.

Food and booze one week end was all it cost steaks, beer wine snacks liquor we had a blast. Weed is 100% legal in Canada cash and carry at the weed stores

Rekeyed his hourse with medecos and taught him lockpicking as a hobby and other "professional courtisies
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby demux » 3 Feb 2021 11:04

I also mentioned this over in this thread but if I were doing any for profit/for hire lock work in any area, my first step would be to introduce myself to the local law enforcement agencies. While not a silver bullet, a good working relationship with the cops will probably at least get you the benefit of the doubt if anything happens that they need to investigate. Plus they might even throw some business your way for lockouts/evictions/restraining orders/other things that cops get called for. ;-)
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby billdeserthills » 3 Feb 2021 18:26

In 30 years I have never had a run-in with the law--5 years ago I picked open a house that I shouldn't have opened for a woman who turned out to be a thief. She cleaned out the place but all there was to steal was an old refrigerator, stove & microwave. The policeman called months later and I explained that as I had carefully recorded her driver's license info, I was not culpable. He muttered something about better not finding out that I was related to her & I never heard from either of them again
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby pickmonger » 4 Feb 2021 9:48

billdeserthills Any suggestions or ideas you can share on avoiding and mitigating "unfortunate misunderstandings"
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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby GWiens2001 » 4 Feb 2021 20:05

Bill gave a good one. Be careful to document all openings (including cars). State or Federally issued photo identification. Do your best to keep good records. That way, if there is a concern after the fact, you can provide law enforcement with as much information as legally possible.

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Re: Yikes Landord's son blamed for breakins

Postby billdeserthills » 4 Feb 2021 21:39

pickmonger wrote:billdeserthills Any suggestions or ideas you can share on avoiding and mitigating "unfortunate misunderstandings"



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