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Combination from serial/blind code?

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Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby demux » 3 Apr 2021 10:06

Recently I inherited a handful (5 or 6) of old combination locks from a friend with unknown combinations. I would like to return these to service for trivial applications where security isn't critical. I've managed to recover combinations for all but one of them through various decoding techniques. The naughty one is an old American dial lock, looks like from the late 60's or early 70's, similar to the ones listed at https://www.etsy.com/listing/676853196/vintage-american-combination-lock-works. I have had no luck getting this one open to observe the wheels internally (have destroyed a few shims in the process), and I haven't been able to find any easy locked decode techniques like on the Masters. I don't want to go destructive, and given that they were free and the security isn't great, also not sure I want to go full on manipulation.

Anyone know if it's possible to look up the combination on these from lockcodes.com or similar given the serial/blind code stamped on the rear? If so, anyone have a subscription that's willing to look one up for me? Let me know and I'll PM you the code and you can PM me the combination. Happy to include a pic showing it's not locked to anything if you like.

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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby Kenneth_V » 3 Apr 2021 14:11

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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby demux » 3 Apr 2021 18:06

Many thanks to Kenneth_V for his help, I got the lock open.
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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby candado3 » 13 Jun 2021 8:37

I have a similar problem.
The lock I have has a blue dial and I've been playing around with it off and on for about 2 years and have not found a way to non-destructably open it.
The serial number on the back is 51062
Does anyone know how to decode these locks (I've searched the net with no solution) or can anyone send me the combination from the serial number
Thanks
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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Jun 2021 9:34

candado3 wrote:I have a similar problem.
The lock I have has a blue dial and I've been playing around with it off and on for about 2 years and have not found a way to non-destructably open it.
The serial number on the back is 51062
Does anyone know how to decode these locks (I've searched the net with no solution) or can anyone send me the combination from the serial number
Thanks


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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Jun 2021 9:44

I have a grey-dial American padlock that I have been looking for the combo for a while, too. It is quite an early model, as it not only says "American Lock Co" AND "MFG by Junkunc Bros", it also says "PAT PEND.". The serial number is 00092. Anybody know what the combination is?

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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby stratmando » 18 Jun 2021 21:54

Best way I know is to shim first, Then use something to push latch out of the way, maybe the band from a Click ball point pen, look down hole, Dial more than 3 times right, until disc's slot is in view, then turn left til second slot of next disc lines up, then the last wheel to the right til it lines up withe first two disc slots, say it was 10, 20, 30. Over 40 years ago, I think I added 11 to the numbers, later licks seem to be a different offset?
If 11, then it would be, 21, 31, 41. Good Luck, it puts the locks back in operation.
YouTube Videos will show pulling up in shackle, feel for the Gates, write down numbers and half numbers, too much math, plus, it dependent when it was made. First way is easiest. Good Luck
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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby cledry » 23 Jun 2021 23:01

Check your messages.

GWiens2001 wrote:I have a grey-dial American padlock that I have been looking for the combo for a while, too. It is quite an early model, as it not only says "American Lock Co" AND "MFG by Junkunc Bros", it also says "PAT PEND.". The serial number is 00092. Anybody know what the combination is?

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Re: Combination from serial/blind code?

Postby escapenrv » 12 Mar 2022 17:00

I too could use some help. I have...
1 a Gougler keyless lock, F8231 on shackle
2 a Miller keyless lock, F6062 on shackle
3 a Miller Keyless lock, F6214 on shackle

Any help would be wonderful.
Thanks...
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