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Need assistance identifying a key

Got a cool old key? What keyway is this?! Need a key for that old steamer trunk or padlock? Do Not Duplicate got you down? What's that part number for that factory key section? Which supplier has this key blank in stock? Need the MACS, root depth, or Depth and Spacing for your lock? Need some pre cut keys? Keys and Key Blanks is the forum for you!

Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 24 Apr 2021 17:32

The background, I purchased a trailer mounted generator manufactured by Allmand Brothers of Holdrege Nebraska, the model is Night-Lite Pro.

The problem I am having is, I only have a single ignition key and my experience in life is, if I have only a single key, it's going to get lost, so I would like to have a few more.

It's an odd looking key with no markings on the bow what so ever, I took it to a so called locksmith over in Fort Myers and he advised me he has never seen such a key, so I contacted Allmand and was advised since the unit was built in 2011, they do not stock the same replacement ignition switch or keys, but can provide me with a new switch, I just need to swap out the wiring harness, the problem with that is they want $135 for the new switch, which I don't want to spend if I can avoid doing so.

That stated my goal is hopefully someone here can identify the key way so I can order some blanks from either Blockage or HL Flake, I have a Mini-Speedex so once I have the blanks I should be able to duplicate the existing key, the key I have doesn't seem to be too worn out so hopefully I can duplicate it without too much of a hassle.

Now I do understand there is security issue with helping a stranger identify a key blank, as such if someone can identify the key way and needs proof of ownership, I will be more than glad to PM them my Bill of Sale proving I bought this generator legally and I am the legal owner of it.

What follows is the key shot from a few different angles and a shot of the ignition lock, which is somewhat useless, as it doesn't show much at all.

Any help is sincerely appreciated.

Wayne Eckert
Rural Florida Communications Cooperative

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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 24 Apr 2021 17:42

I forgot this photo, knowing the length would help wouldn't it.

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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby jeffmoss26 » 24 Apr 2021 19:12

hey, I know you from DSLR!
"I tried smoking a blank once. I was never able to keep the tip lit long enough to inhale." - ltdbjd
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby jeffmoss26 » 24 Apr 2021 19:13

that is a common equipment key, we stock them either blank or precut at work, I will get the PN on Monday.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby stratmando » 25 Apr 2021 8:39

Go to eBay, Search "Equipment Keys", looks like the Kubota Diesel. Good Luck. Think there is a Website
"Equipmentkeys.com"
Good Luck some more
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby stratmando » 25 Apr 2021 9:04

Did find what looks like it on Amazon. ZT trucks had 6 for about $9,mostly sets come up. 88 different Equipment Keys and less are available. Not sure if 88 was available when I got mine, handy after Hurricane's to get things going
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby Evan » 25 Apr 2021 15:40

well bonded wrote:The background, I purchased a trailer mounted generator manufactured by Allmand Brothers of Holdrege Nebraska, the model is Night-Lite Pro.

The problem I am having is, I only have a single ignition key and my experience in life is, if I have only a single key, it's going to get lost, so I would like to have a few more.

It's an odd looking key with no markings on the bow what so ever, I took it to a so called locksmith over in Fort Myers and he advised me he has never seen such a key, so I contacted Allmand and was advised since the unit was built in 2011, they do not stock the same replacement ignition switch or keys, but can provide me with a new switch, I just need to swap out the wiring harness, the problem with that is they want $135 for the new switch, which I don't want to spend if I can avoid doing so.

That stated my goal is hopefully someone here can identify the key way so I can order some blanks from either Blockage or HL Flake, I have a Mini-Speedex so once I have the blanks I should be able to duplicate the existing key, the key I have doesn't seem to be too worn out so hopefully I can duplicate it without too much of a hassle.

Now I do understand there is security issue with helping a stranger identify a key blank, as such if someone can identify the key way and needs proof of ownership, I will be more than glad to PM them my Bill of Sale proving I bought this generator legally and I am the legal owner of it.

What follows is the key shot from a few different angles and a shot of the ignition lock, which is somewhat useless, as it doesn't show much at all.

Any help is sincerely appreciated.

Wayne Eckert
Rural Florida Communications Cooperative


Wayne,

Does your particular generator use a Kubota engine ?

I operate a small tractor at work powered by a Kubota gas engine which uses a key I would swear is the same as the one you have posted pictures of.

Part Number: 66711-55140 Ignition Keys
https://www.amazon.com/KRRK-parts-66711-55140-Ignition-Tractors-Generators/dp/B088JR95G1

Hopefully this is the information you are looking for. These keys look like they only come as pre-cuts thus no key blanks would be available which is why you are having difficulty identifying and locating them and explains your interaction with the locksmith you contacted.

~~ Evan
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby stratmando » 26 Apr 2021 7:00

Evan, think that is it, couldn't copy Link yesterday
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07PR94WK2/ ... KNT64FJN4R
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby bitbuster » 26 Apr 2021 9:17

The blanks look very similar to some of the old Honda and Yamaha cycle keys.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 26 Apr 2021 14:53

jeffmoss26 wrote:hey, I know you from DSLR!


Ha small world.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 26 Apr 2021 15:00

stratmando wrote:Go to eBay, Search "Equipment Keys", looks like the Kubota Diesel. Good Luck. Think there is a Website
"Equipmentkeys.com"
Good Luck some more


Found them there as well.

I couldn't imagine a rental company with a yard full of these units having keyed differently and I was correct, it seems one key fits all of them.

Thanks.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 26 Apr 2021 15:02

Evan wrote:
well bonded wrote:Does your particular generator use a Kubota engine ?

I operate a small tractor at work powered by a Kubota gas engine which uses a key I would swear is the same as the one you have posted pictures of.

Part Number: 66711-55140 Ignition Keys
https://www.amazon.com/KRRK-parts-66711-55140-Ignition-Tractors-Generators/dp/B088JR95G1

Hopefully this is the information you are looking for. These keys look like they only come as pre-cuts thus no key blanks would be available which is why you are having difficulty identifying and locating them and explains your interaction with the locksmith you contacted.

~~ Evan


Yes it has a D1005 Kubota 3 cylinder 1L diesel engine.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby well bonded » 26 Apr 2021 15:20

bitbuster wrote:The blanks look very similar to some of the old Honda and Yamaha cycle keys.


At one time way back I had a Honda 450 and yes that key seems to be real close to the one I had.

Sadly my ex-wife stole it from me and dumped it in a lake, by the time I got her to tell me where it was, after I pulled it lout it was not worth rebuilding, what was really screwed up was I also had a Honda 350 that she wanted and a Super Bee she wanted, had she just asked for them I would have given them to her, just to get her to go away, she totally hated me, but wouldn't go away.

Years later she told me she just couldn't ask me for them, she thought I would demand she get into bed with me, which I had no interest in doing with her anymore, so she tried to just get even by drowning the bike (with her boyfriends help) and smashing up the Dodge with her mom's pickup truck, which she got arrested and sent to jail for.

Nice girl, really hot looking, but had a real dark side that I discovered about way too late.
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby stratmando » 26 Apr 2021 16:19

Does she have a Sister.
The Photos in the Links Provided by Evan and Myself Appear to be the Correct Cut Key, you won't need a Blank. You geet 4 or 6 cut keys for under $9.
Do you have a Photo of her Sister? Boat and Motor?
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Re: Need assistance identifying a key

Postby jeffmoss26 » 26 Apr 2021 17:53

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