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Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

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Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 15 May 2021 16:03

I am looking for pin channel caps for some profile cylinders. For some reason I am not able to find them. Must not be searching for the correct terms. These are the caps that seal the pin channels on the bible of profile cylinders.

Can anybody please let me know what terms I should be using and/or where I can order some.

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby Raymond » 15 May 2021 18:21

Are you looking for the thin brass strip that is pressed into the channel of the top of cylinders, (1) or the round brass caps that are pressed into the holes as on Best cores (2)?

If (1) just buy brass shim at a hobby store and cut to fit with scissors.
If (2) use master wafers. If they are too small of the diameter to stick, hit each with a hammer until it swells to the appropriate size.
Or, thread the hole and use Allen screws.

I doubt you will find anything else as they are probably requested, made by, or provided to lock manufacturing companies internally or by contract with a metal stamping company who will want you to buy them by the millions.
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 15 May 2021 19:40

Not talking about SFIC. SFIC caps are too small in diameter.

These are euro-profile cylinders. They are caps/plugs for normal diameter pins like those found in mortises and deadbolts here in North America.

Have been tempted to take some short pins and mushroom them into caps, but was hoping to find a source for the proper ones. Most profile locks seem to use them, so there has to be a source somewhere, even if it is overseas.

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby billdeserthills » 15 May 2021 20:36

You mean these pin caps for CES?
http://builderslock.com/pin-cap-for-ces.html
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby Squelchtone » 15 May 2021 21:00

I think GWiens2001 means these:

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 15 May 2021 21:41

Squelchtone is correct. They are actually plugs. But still hope to find some.

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby billdeserthills » 15 May 2021 21:43

We always just tapped the holes & installed set screws but you could always buy a piece of brass rod
I'm sure you already have a file
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 15 May 2021 23:22

billdeserthills wrote:We always just tapped the holes & installed set screws but you could always buy a piece of brass rod
I'm sure you already have a file


What's a file?

:mrgreen:

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby billdeserthills » 17 May 2021 22:37

An old timer told me the easiest way to get those caps out was to hit it off center & make it start to spin, then pull/pry it out. Usually the other side is still pristine & you can just turn it over & tap it back in
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 18 May 2021 7:33

billdeserthills wrote:An old timer told me the easiest way to get those caps out was to hit it off center & make it start to spin, then pull/pry it out. Usually the other side is still pristine & you can just turn it over & tap it back in


The old timers can really know some good tricks. I may try that trick next time. Another one told me to drill a small hole and put in a tiny screw to extract the plugs.

Thanks for the tip, Bill. :D

Still hoping to find the caps so I have some to work with when needed.

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby Raymond » 18 May 2021 9:41

AND, if the plugs are thick (1/8+) don't drill completely through. Then when you flip it the surface will be pristine.
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby demux » 18 May 2021 10:34

billdeserthills wrote:An old timer told me the easiest way to get those caps out was to hit it off center & make it start to spin, then pull/pry it out. Usually the other side is still pristine & you can just turn it over & tap it back in


I made a tool several years ago for removing caps on SFIC cores using this method. It's basically an old allen wrench that I've ground a fairly steep bevel on one side, almost down to a point. Beveled end goes on the cap and tap it with a hammer. The shape is really good at getting the caps to flip, which makes them much easier to remove (often times I can even just yank them off with a small needed nose pliers without even having to hit the pin stack from the bottom, which means I can reuse the pins and springs if I want).
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby billdeserthills » 24 May 2021 10:15

You can make a lifetime's worth of caps from this

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-Brass-Rod/3478159


if you don't have a lathe, just chuck up a small piece in your drill for polishing/cutting
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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby GWiens2001 » 24 May 2021 14:08

billdeserthills wrote:You can make a lifetime's worth of caps from this

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-Brass-Rod/3478159


if you don't have a lathe, just chuck up a small piece in your drill for polishing/cutting


Ding ding ding! That looks like the best solution for now. Thanks, Bill. :D

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Re: Profile Cylinder Pin Channel Caps

Postby billdeserthills » 24 May 2021 15:01

GWiens2001 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:We always just tapped the holes & installed set screws but you could always buy a piece of brass rod
I'm sure you already have a file


What's a file?

:mrgreen:

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After replacing the caps old time locksmiths used a file to make the new caps blend in better
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