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Kwikset Installation Kit

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Kwikset Installation Kit

Postby davidgjr » 21 Sep 2004 14:49

I was wondering and would appreciate some of your input. I had to install a kwikset deadbolt last week. I didnt have an installation kit so I went to Lowe's and bought a kit that does metal and wood doors. It cost me only 20.00 and it worked perfectly. I put a deadbolt on my shed door and my neighbors door also just to get more familiar with it. My question is - what makes the kwikset kit you can by for 150.00 so special. It has way more little tools, but it just didnt impress me enough to think I had to have it. My 20.00 kit came with the jigs to drill every hole on the door and the casing. It also came with the drill bits and everything. Really seems like the inexpensive way to go. What is everyones thoughts on this ?
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Postby hzatorsk » 21 Sep 2004 14:54

Where did you see a $150 Kwikset kit?
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Postby CaptHook » 21 Sep 2004 14:55

The kit you bought is for end user use, ie the homeowner who will use it once or twice. The kwikset kit you mentioned as with many others, are more of a professionals tool. They are way more durable, and have adjustment features to be able to deal with different door thicknesses and backsets.
Plastic vs Metal-think about it.... :lol:
Personally, if you are doing standard 160 preps in limited numbers, Ive never needed the jig. They are nice when you are drilling lots of doors though. And the hole saw/auger in the kit you bought, would not hold up to heavy use.
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Postby davidgjr » 21 Sep 2004 16:00

Chuck,

I see what you are saying. I guess until I get really a good bit into installing I will stick with the cheap kit to save money. If I have to do a bunch at one time, or if I start doing regular installations, I will spring for the more expensive kit. Ebay has the 150.00 kits.
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 21 Sep 2004 23:04

door rigs suck

scratch the door

god forbid you bind up your holesaw in the rig get ready for some real damage to the door, your hole saw, and maybe you depending on how strong your wrist is

use the paper template the locks come with and they go perfect every time
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Postby captainsawdust » 6 Dec 2004 13:32

HeadHunterCEO wrote:
use the paper template the locks come with and they go perfect every time



Measure twice and drill once the templates supplied with locks work 100% everytime

as long as you follow the instructions supplied :wink:
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Postby Romstar » 6 Dec 2004 19:21

Does anyone actually follow instructions anymore? :twisted:

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Postby captainsawdust » 6 Dec 2004 20:23

No not really

I was saying that if there there they are sometimes easier to use than setting up a jig etc
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Postby Romstar » 7 Dec 2004 3:58

Oh, I know what you meant Ian. The thing is, I just see so many people mess things up that I am often surprised when I see someone actually reading the instructions.

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Postby captainsawdust » 7 Dec 2004 5:24

Romstar

I know a guy that bought a brand new PC spent alot of $$$$ on it,

took it home and set it up

without using the instructions supplied loaded windows into it

when he finally got it up and running after loading all the other software supplied in to it

went in to windows explorer and sent loads of drivers and files to the recyclebin and deleted them.

Hence Puter packed up !! and wouldnt work !! They took it back and the shop kept it for 2 weeks as when asked did you delete anything

He anwsered NO
well have to send it away then !

Now his wife has not allowed him to load anything else on to it at all !

Now he SHOULD of read the instructions !
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Postby Romstar » 7 Dec 2004 5:33

Should have to take a course if he's that bad.

I hate to sound like an ass, but I remember when the only people who had computers were people who understood how to use them.

Now, I don't think it should go back that far, but......

There are some people who just shouldn't be using a computer and inflicting themselves on other people.

At any rate, I understand what you are saying. As it applies to door hardware, I have seen upside down locks, no screw holes, and all kinds of silliness.

My favorite is when the strike and the bolt don't line up. How you can make this mistake is beyond me on a new install, but I have seen it.

The more subtle mistake is a standard key in knob install. Most of them have a secondary bolt on the latch that is intended to dead lock the spring latch. If the strike is misaligned, the dead lock doesn't function, and you can pop the lock by pushing the latch back into the door.

Favorite last words?

"I don't know why it doesn't work, I installed it myself......" :roll:

Yes, we all make mistakes, but why do some people continue making the same one over and over?

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Postby captainsawdust » 7 Dec 2004 5:42

The strike and the bolt is a good one

The ones most novices over here really screw up on are the Rebate Kits for fitting the striking plates on a pair of rebated doors, or lthe strike box for a BS3621 mortice lock

I,ve seen more lines on doors than at the local train station :cry:
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Postby Romstar » 7 Dec 2004 6:10

Measure twice, cut once. As you said.

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Postby mbell » 7 Dec 2004 6:28

If it's too short, cut a bit off.

Makes perfect sense.
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Postby captainsawdust » 7 Dec 2004 7:57

mbell wrote:If it's too short, cut a bit off.

Makes perfect sense.


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