Help IDing Dial on Diebold Safe

[volock]

Hey everyone,

Just joined here, I normally stick to the lock picking world, and less the safe side of things (unless it's firmware tampering). Had a question if someone might help me ID a lock.

A friend's Dad passed away and we need into the safe for his will, but don't have the combination. We'll be drilling it this weekend, aside from it being extra thick metal and so time consuming, I have no worries doing the drill and scope, and know where to drill.

I'm curious if anyone can help me ID this dial lock. I'm not worried about drilling it, but as someone who loves to play with locks, I'm curious if I can get help IDing the dial. It's not the Yale I expected to see, but the end cap design was used on some Yale/SG of the period (which this may not be original lock). It's a 3+ hour drive each way or I'd probably have just driven there to look for a better marking on the lock or drilled it open by now.

What I know:
1900-1940 Diebold Safe sold by Noyes Safe and Lock Co
Too heavy in it's built in spot for us to move when we out there last time...

[Squelchtone]

Hi,

Why do you think that is a Diebold safe?

I ask because it sure looks like a safe made by The Reliable Safe & Lock Co of Covington KY.


Here are some photos of the mechanism so you can figure out the best plan of action and gauge how thick the door is.

https://picclick.com/Antique-Complete-Reliable-Safe-Lock-Co-Combination-252736445455.html

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-complete-reliable-safe-lock-1846130995

Squelchtone

[volock]

Hi,

Why do you think that is a Diebold safe?

I ask because it sure looks like a safe made by The Reliable Safe & Lock Co of Covington KY.

The company name on it, only ever sold and distributed Diebold Safes (per any documentation I can find). It matches some of the other Diebold safes of the Era for dimension, and hinge design. That said, many of these cast iron safes definitely look similar and I'm no expert. I won't know until after this weekend for sure when I go help my friend move and open it.

Thanks for the correction. Seeing the logo of that brand, I see I was wrong and see the dial and handle matches. Now to figure out what lock it is still.

[Squelchtone]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's a Reliable, look up other Reliable safes on google image search they have the same logo on the door. [Edit: looks like you looked at the logo already]



Squelchtone

[volock]

Yeah I think your 100% correct. Which means I'm a bit further, as I now know the locking mechanism.

And while I had been planning to use a respirator, appropriate shopvac and sealing of the area around, now that we've confirmed what safe company it is, I also know the risk of Asbestos is higher and time to talk my friend into us trying manipulation before I consider drilling.

[Squelchtone]

I think you'll get a lot out of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPsHTNx4sE



And you saw the photos of the lock mechanisms I posted earlier, right?

Good luck with the opening, keep us posted.

Squelchtone

[volock]

Thanks for all the help.

Definitely will post an update when it's opened, but not the contents inside unless I get permission. If it were something modern for a mech lock, I'd have less faith in my odds of opening it, but I hope to stand a chance with it's age.