Atlas In-Floor Safe

[sign216]

Perhaps I could use this current La Gard cylinder, and thread the end to accept a nut?

https://www.lockmasters.com/lagard-fort-dial-cylinder-with-double-sided-keys-lag1732

[billdeserthills]

Bill,
I checked Hudson/Lockmaster and MBA Usa, but no matches. This cylinder is different; it is threaded on the end, and secured w a nut.
The lock is La Gard, but current La Gard don't seem to have the threaded end option. So it's no longer in production?

Perhaps my best bet is to find a locksmith w a key blank that fits, and have him cut it to fit.
Your thoughts?
Joe



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I've never seen a threaded cylinder used in a dial before but making a key would be easy, I just made a key for a dial lock last week, of course mine had the retainer instead of a nut.

I still don't see why you want the dial lock anyway, most of my clients have little use for it

[billdeserthills]

Perhaps I could use this current La Gard cylinder, and thread the end to accept a nut?

https://www.lockmasters.com/lagard-fort-dial-cylinder-with-double-sided-keys-lag1732

I'm thinking that threading a pot metal cylinder would be a real challenge, better to find a short cam lock with the same size square end on it. Making a key would be the easiest

[Squelchtone]

Bill,
I checked Hudson/Lockmaster and MBA Usa, but no matches. This cylinder is different; it is threaded on the end, and secured w a nut.
The lock is La Gard, but current La Gard don't seem to have the threaded end option. So it's no longer in production?

Perhaps my best bet is to find a locksmith w a key blank that fits, and have him cut it to fit.
Your thoughts?
Joe



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Can you show a photo of the back side of the dial with this wafer cylinder inserted and secured with the nut? How does it lock the dial from being spun? Is there a cam that it moves 90 degrees?

Thanks,
Squelchtone

[sign216]

Here are the photos:

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[image]VLUU L210 / Samsung L210 by sign216 [/image]

[image] SDC19270 by sign216 [/image]

[image] SDC19262 by sign216 [/image]

[billdeserthills]

Your other option would be to replace the dial/dial ring with Lagard parts. If you can work a file all you need is a keyblank to make your own key
https://www.ebay.com/itm/272510994561?c ... ntid=51291


This is the key I used in a similar but older-style dial keylock last week but there are several versions of this key that are very similar
https://mrlock.com/key-blank-fort-s900- ... ble-sided/

[Squelchtone]

MartinH,

I don't want to change the combo, I want to change the keyed cylinder in the dial. (see the picture in the original posting).

Wait.. let's back up a minute.. you have this kick ass safe head and Lagard combination lock, but you still care about the wafer lock which is only there to lock the dial so someone can't casually walk up and turn it? Are you restoring this for a customer or is this just a safe head you bought for collecting/safe manipulation learning? I'd remove the cam or the wafer lock and enjoy the safe head and Lagard dial, and not worry about making a key what seems like a model that is no longer made or sold. that wafer lock and the cam with the pattern in the dial ring is certainly interesting, but I wouldn't make getting a key or replacing the wafer core a show stopper...

Now that youv'e shown us how unique/rare that cam and dial ring is, I'd vote for fitting a blank into that keyway and having someone impression it.. hell, you could impression it, or MacGyver a working key yourself by using a file and filing both sides of the key until the wafers are all flush with the core body. hardest part is to figure out the blank/keyway profile, but it's bound to be something made by Hudson or Chicago.

good luck with your project,
Squelchtone

[sign216]

Bill and Squelch,

I ran into a wall, and I was hoping the "big guns" (you two) would have an easy source for replacement cylinders or keys.
Turns out it's not such an easy task. I'll leave it as is. The key-way isn't a vital part, and I've solved the main issue w the lock; finding the combo. It's now back to working condition.

Thanks for letting me pick your brains,
Joe

[GWiens2001]

They use those locks on the lockers at my work.

Gordon

[Raymond]

Look at the double sided key blanks made by Fort. Those locks were once used a lot on game machines.

[GWiens2001]

It does look a lot like a Fort 775 key blank would fit.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

It does look a lot like a Fort 775 key blank would fit.

Gordon

That's the blank I used for my LaGard dial key

[sign216]

I looked through my spare cylinders, and found a double-bitted Fort cylinder from a desk that was the right diameter, but too long. I cut and shaped it, but it ended up breaking because the zinc die-cast body wasn't strong.

Also picked up some vending machine Fort cylinders, which didn't match because the diameter was much too big.

I'll get a key blank 775. That's cheap enough to try.