Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
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The handles shouldn't matter as they are independent of the lock. If that is a Y6 lock the handle bumps against a sliding bolt in the lock that blocks it's travel. It has no interaction with the dial. You can see that clearly in the one video. The left door has no interaction with the lock. It simply opens once the right door is open. More suggestions coming but I am in the middle of a project right now and beer time will be coming up soon down at the local watering hole. Priorities, don't cha know. lol
You call that a safe? Let me show you a real safe...
What was the dialing patter that you used? The original one? show us pictures of the lock. Then it is time to get inside of it and see what is going on. Congratulations. No better feeling than when it opens!
You call that a safe? Let me show you a real safe...
That safe is in really great condition! And a detail which is important to me: The rug is in a really nice condition. I am a total fan of safe rugs, because they don't exist where I live.
Seeing how this thing works inside is totally crazy. Sometimes, I can put the combination in and the gaps don't line up at all. other times, it's works like a charm.
The dialing pattern was just what we thought.
clear to the left and land on 80 right, stopping 3rd time on 15 left, stopping 2nd time on 60 right to stop (somewhere in the vicinity of 91)
Now the question is, what's the proper way to clean this thing so that it functions more properly. I'm super hesitant to use any kind of lubricant or solvent at this point. Tomorrow, I'll try to get some video of dialing the combination on the inside. Taking those two flat head screws off of the silver disc in the picture removes all the discs. Presumably this is the way to change the combination. Everything seems shiny and not too gunky inside, but once I saw what happened when I took it out, I immediately put it back in without changing anything. I left the door open and it's staying that way until I can open it reliably 10 times in a row.
I would disassemble first the wheel pack to have access to all wheels for cleaning. There is a clip holding all wheels on the post. You might want to look first if one or more of the flies are not moving easily to see if this was a cause of your problem. Then I would clean all wheels with break cleaner to flush out the grease, which is usually where it should not be. In this process you can also set a new combination. I do lube thinly only the wheel post where the wheels run on. I'd give the lock body as the basic service a good wipe to remove the reachable dirt and grease (Is there a name for the mix of both?) and a little oil where the bolt runs. For more things need to be disassembled.
gmichaelson wrote:Do you, by chance, know of a guide online that explains how to clean the wheel pack and set a new combination.
It does not seem obvious.
I tried googling but just ended up with lots of links to how to open locks without combinations. Maybe I have the wrong keywords?
Having just come across a hand change lock myself, I agree that it is not easy to find how to update the combo on a hand-change wheelpack like you have in your earlier photo.
This video should definitely help, as the concept is the same.
As noted in the video - make sure you keep the wheels, flies and other bits in order and re-assemble in exactly the same order.
The video does not really cover the cleaning part, but cleaning is pretty straightforward - use something that will not attack the metal. Unless there is something really bad on them, and yours look really clean, mild detergent and thorough dry before reassembly.
I will let the others weigh in on the lubricant for your wheelpack. Some say SuperLube, some say light oil, others say None (including the video guy). Whatever you choose, make sure it is minimal so that general dust or metal bits do not build up and create an abrasive paste or dry out and foul the mechanism.
