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Stopped at Customs???

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Stopped at Customs???

Postby Sipe » 20 Mar 2004 13:50

Anyone in canada actully have a pickset taken by customs?
Did the police contact you? Did you get in trouble with the police?
Also did anyone ever have a pickset opened by customs and it got through?
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Postby i_want_to_pick » 20 Mar 2004 15:52

As far a I know in Canada, if costums takes the picks you dont get in trouble.
Its actual possession that gets you in trouble, if its at costums you arn't in possession of them. Matt
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Postby plot » 20 Mar 2004 15:56

you can't get in trouble for anything in the mail being sent to you. only for possession...

otherwise i could send you cocaine in the mail and tip off the postmaster, and you'd get arrested for drugs even though they never made it to your house and there is no proof you ever ordered them etc.
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Postby Sipe » 20 Mar 2004 16:18

Any one ever have picks taken by customs?
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Postby Luke » 20 Mar 2004 16:19

This is most probably the same with Canada as it is in Aus. Customs don't have a problem with lockpicks - heck they opened my pickgun an even pulled the trigger a few times - dirty fingers :lol: But they still delivered.
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Postby Sipe » 22 Mar 2004 15:43

Anyone in Canada had a pickset taken by customs.
"If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
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Legality

Postby YelseW » 6 Dec 2004 17:31

So what you're saying is that I can order lockpicks without a licence and still receive them in the mail...And they wont get confiscated
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Re: Legality

Postby plot » 6 Dec 2004 18:23

YelseW wrote:So what you're saying is that I can order lockpicks without a licence and still receive them in the mail...And they wont get confiscated


99% chance that they won't.
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Postby Buggs41 » 6 Dec 2004 21:25

Anyone have a pickset taken by customs?

Anyone in Canada have a pickset taken by customs?

Anyone in the US have a pickset taken by customs?

Anyone in the U.A.E. have a pickset taken by customs?

Anyone in the world have a pickset taken by customs?



Don't worry Sipe.....I will keep on this long after you retire!
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Reply to Sipe + a question

Postby YelseW » 7 Dec 2004 20:20

Sipe said "Anyone in Canada had a pickset taken by customs."

How did you even get lockpicks into Canada? How can I get lockpicks in Canada without a licece. I just want to start lockpicking as a hobby.
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WoW

Postby YelseW » 7 Dec 2004 20:22

Ok sipe do u mean to say that my order or picks without a licence WILL come in or WON'T come in? Thanks alot, and can I buy them from lockpickshop.com because they will ship to Canada?
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Postby Mr Ules » 7 Dec 2004 20:30

I hate to interupt but in their policies it says that the only people able to purchase locksmithing tools must either be a car repossessor, car dealer, or a bona fide locksmith. This was what was under their terms & conditions. And according to the policies, the person ordering the picks must prove that they are one of the three people stated above. Customs will most definitely know that they are picks because they now screen all mail. So a sleezy lockpick sale sight won't do it.
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Postby Romstar » 7 Dec 2004 21:11

Oh dear ord. Here we go.

First up, the best places to buy picks from on-line in my opinion are:

www.lockpickshop.com
www.lockpicks.com
www.southord.com
www.peterson-international.com

Each of these are reputable and respectable suppliers. They frequently send picks and associated tools into Canada every day.

Canada Customs will NOT seize lockpicks or tools coming into the country. The terms and policies as specified by many of these sites concern only the United States Postal Service, which prohibits the shipping of these tools to anyone other than a genuine locksmith, police officer, or other person allowed to possess these tools. In many cases, these companies will utilize UPS or FedEx for shpping purposes. Also, since the delivery is going to Canada, they can use USPS at the customers discretion.

US Postal regulations do NOT apply to Canadian deliveries. Further, actually reading the Canada Criminal code will show you that you must be in posession of the tools in a circumstance which gives rise to the belief that they were or are going to be used for a criminal activity.

The ONLY provinces which have independent laws concerning these tools are. 1. British Columbia, 2. Alberta and 3. Saskatchewan.

None of the other provinces INCLUDING Ontario have any prohibitions concerning posession of locksmithing tools.

Canada Customs does NOT screen all mail. This includes parcel post. As a matter of fact, less than 20% of all mail sent into and through Canada is screened.

It is the responsibility of the purchaser to honestly, and legally possess these tools. As stated, there are only 3 provinces which have any regulations at all, and in the case of hobbyest pickers, so long as they are in your home they are still legal. Transportation from the post office to home is not considered a criminal offence.

This information graciously provided by the Nova Scotia minister of Justice. Any specific questions or concerns should be directed to a competent lawyer in your own jurristiction.

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THANK YOU

Postby YelseW » 7 Dec 2004 21:22

Finally this is probably the best direct answer I have ever received. I'm so going to fly to BC right now and order them there :lol: . But some other people stated that it is illegal to even possess the picks anywhere in Canada without a licence...sometimes even up to 10 years in jail.
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Postby Mr Ules » 7 Dec 2004 21:30

well thank you romstar for clearing that up for us. So basically what you're saying is that anybody in Ontario can purchase lockpicks as long as they are delivered UPS or something like that.
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