Help with Gary Safe 21

[Squelchtone]

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I purchased a Gary safe door for fun. And my name is Gary.

I am currently disasembling it for cleaning and I cannot figure out how to remove the comination wheels. There seems to be a soft key in place at the center but I cannot grab it and don't want to start punching on things without knowing what I am doing. There are also three sets of little bumps arranged at the center, 3 bumps, 2 bumps, 1 bump. What the heck are these?

The pawl and spring are missing and I will need to fabricate these. Going to make from CRS. I understand that the spring forces the pawl in when all the wheels align. But what forces it out to relock it?

And, any ideas on how to make the actual safe. Would like it secure but not all the way.

Gary

[MartinHewitt]

Hi Gary, the 9mm piece in the center is the dial spindle. The bigger part around it is the drive cam. In the spindle is one slot, in the drive cam are three slots. Where the spindle slot meets one drive cam slot there is a spline key inserted, sadly without head. If you manage to pull that out you will be able to unscrew the dial.

Good luck!

[gary7]

So the drive cam is screwed onto the spindle? I was thinking this was so and could sort of feel the threads with a probe. There is a little bit of this key proud of the slot and I will continue to work this. The key is soft-ish. I guess I could mount it on the mill and carefully drill it out. You think?

[MartinHewitt]

If you can't wiggle it out with a very pointy tool or aggressive pliers, then drilling is probably the next best option. Or maybe just drill on one side to improve the access for a tool. An option could be also to punch the spline key through, but I tried that on an S&G and it went totally wrong. So I don't recommend this unless the construction of the drive cam and spindle is really known to be ok with this.

[billdeserthills]

Your best option is to just leave it alone, as long as everything works. You don't need to remove the spline key to clean & grease the bolts