The importance of bolting your safe down

[Squelchtone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSww13SQ8o

[MartinHewitt]

It is also important to bolt down the speaker so he doesn't run away.

[98G]

Suggestions for making wheeled safes more difficult to steal in their entirety?

Granted, it was difficult to move, but I was concerned about the floor. A thief with a class 8 truck and a steel cable could just yank it through a wall...

[MartinHewitt]

I think the solution in the past was to wheel them over night into the vault.

[98G]

I think the solution in the past was to wheel them over night into the vault.

I can't imagine that being a daily task, but i could be wrong. Even with the wheels, three of us got a real workout rolling it out of the vault.

Getting it into the house, I pushed it with the tractor forks. And then used the schedule 40 steel pipe as a lever to roll it in small increments to its final resting place (where it may as well be an immovable object). You can see I bent the pipe.

The vault-

[Kaesekopf]

I can't imagine that being a daily task, but i could be wrong. Even with the wheels, three of us got a real workout rolling it out of the vault.

I imagine the bearings on the wheels are not in mint condition though now. I expect it would still be reasonably difficult new though.

The vault-

Diebold vault door with peerless locks?

[98G]

I can't imagine that being a daily task, but i could be wrong. Even with the wheels, three of us got a real workout rolling it out of the vault.

I imagine the bearings on the wheels are not in mint condition though now. I expect it would still be reasonably difficult new though.

The vault-

Diebold vault door with peerless locks?

The safe got away while unloading and rolled away, flipping on its side. The wheels required next to no effort to roll and the bearings felt smooth.

Some more pics of the vault door -

[Kaesekopf]

Thanks for the pictures of the door! I’d love to have one of those haha. Those locks look great.

Unfortunate with the moving; for anyone planning to move safes (or other heavy objects in the future) when going down a ramp, the amount of weight you have to support is the sin of the angle multiplied against the weight. So a 30 degree angle requires you to support 50%.

[Squelchtone]

Someone on a Facebook safe collectors group had the question of how to bolt down a safe on wheels and I think they ended up welding an eye let under it to use a chain and padlock or something along those lines.

if the safe wheels have holes, you might be able to think of a way to run a rod through one of them and have the rod bolted to a wall or floor, and put bolts on the end of the rod that went through the wheel. Anything to slow them down.

[98G]

Someone on a Facebook safe collectors group had the question of how to bolt down a safe on wheels and I think they ended up welding an eye let under it to use a chain and padlock or something along those lines.

if the safe wheels have holes, you might be able to think of a way to run a rod through one of them and have the rod bolted to a wall or floor, and put bolts on the end of the rod that went through the wheel. Anything to slow them down.

Or just a chain looped through the hole in one wheel or all wheels and either bolted to something or not. It's not rolling at that point. And 3/4" grade 100 chain takes a while to cut...

[billdeserthills]

:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSww13SQ8o

Last broken-into light duty gun safe I saw was a Sentry-- opened up and cleaned out where it stood, in the garage. Owner didn't even notice until I pointed out the cuts

[GWiens2001]

:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSww13SQ8o

I love the safe being “stolen” in the background as an example.

Gordon

[latch-key-kid]

Love the OPs video. Immediately shared it with a friend.

[latch-key-kid]

Last broken-into light duty gun safe I saw was a Sentry-- opened up and cleaned out where it stood, in the garage. Owner didn't even notice until I pointed out the cuts

IIRC Underwriters Laboratories calls them a "residential security container", which I have learned is not to be confused with a real "safe". Kudos to the guy making the video as he does talk about the concept of "layered security", which is critical in all types of security disciplines.

[nothumbs]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/burglar-wheels-safe-oakland-ice-222944114.html

Not the best example, but yet another one.