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Crown Safe

Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
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Crown Safe

Postby HandymanFTG » 7 May 2025 0:26

I have been asked by a friend to give this a crack, they have been using this safe with the key only because they forgot the combination some time ago now have either lost the key or it has been locked inside.
Havent been able to find out anything about the safe, can anyone shed any light on it for me?Image
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Re: Crown Safe

Postby bitbuster » 7 May 2025 9:38

The lock is a straight-tailpiece lock, also known as a direct entry lock. Generally has 3 wheels. The key acts as the handle. When all 3 wheels are lined up at drop-in, turn key clockwise and pull open. Drop-in is at 75 (9 o'clock). Pin tumbler lock is easy to pick.
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Re: Crown Safe

Postby HandymanFTG » 10 May 2025 3:08

Found the key, just need to learn how to crack the combination, any hints?
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Re: Crown Safe

Postby bitbuster » 10 May 2025 9:58

Go to top of page and put 'Manipulating a Sentry' in SEARCH after you click SEARCH.
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Re: Crown Safe

Postby DeanR » 13 May 2025 21:53

I did an identical one, sold online as "Lost combination".

Direct entry safes are the easiest of the combination locks to manipulate. Your lock has three wheels, plus the main wheel directly connected to the dial. Thus, four numbers.

With pressure on the key (clockwise?) you should be able to determine the gap in the main wheel. This is the forth number in the combination.

From here, with some pressure on the key, you will look for the angle of the key, to determine gate position for each wheel. There are a number of good Youtube videos on this.

Here is the setup I used to manipulate a similar one. I took the photo to show someone else, and added explanations for them.

The rubber band turns the key, to press a lever onto the wheel pack. For any dial position, if the laser spot lowers on the ruler, it means that there is most likely a gate at that number. I pulled against the rubber band to release pressure, turn the wheel to the next dial position, and release the rubber band. Checking every 2.5 numbers is probably OK.

There are quicker and easier ways with just an arm on the key, but this worked for me.

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Re: Crown Safe

Postby demux » 15 May 2025 8:49

That's a pretty sweet feedback amplification system you've got there, really like that!
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