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Raking Problem

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Raking Problem

Postby war_ » 1 Jan 2005 5:24

hi all ,
already thx for reading ...
i watched some videos of people raking padlocks , etc ..
they open a slot in 2 rakes , its donne in 2 secondes .
when im raking a padlock , it takes me almost 1 to 2 minutes
i readed much guides about raking . any advice of maybe an other guide ?
already thx in advance

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Postby war_ » 1 Jan 2005 5:29

btw : dont start to flame me about use search plzz
because if i use search and i type raking , it gave me about 12 pages
with actualy 2 real topics about raking
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Postby Grudge » 1 Jan 2005 6:18

Here is a few reasons why it might take 2 seconds in a video but 2 minutes for you or me. First, raking actually takes some practice to get good at. Yep, it is not as complicated as picking but it does have its own 'feel' you need to learn. Also usually practicing on the same lock over and over lets you get faster and faster in opening it. In addition, every lock is different even if it is the exact same make & model. All sorts of things cause, this including has it been heavily used, left outside, did the machine make this one 'sloppy' or near perfect, etc. And of course the one thing that WILL be different is the key.

Generally if you want an easy to rake lock run down to your local megamart and look for a cheap brass padlock but make sure you slosh the package around a bit to get a look at the keys included. How much variation is there in the key cuts (the valleys on the keys)? A lock/key which does have much height difference between each cut is generally easier to rake.

Finally, different rakes work better on different locks/key cuts. If you have several you can try each a few times and see which one works the best on a particular lock. Also remember, if you are going to make a lock raking video would you film the one you struggle with each time or an easy 'confidence' lock? Enough said. :wink:
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Postby war_ » 1 Jan 2005 6:27

ok thx for the usefull info and fast reply
again thx
picking locks ...
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Postby pinky » 1 Jan 2005 7:14

another plus is video can be edited and can fib, i could open every lock in 2 seconds if on video.

im not saying all video uses edited sessions and rigged locks. but remember the video is trying to teach you the method of how its picked, it would be boring for you to watch 5 minutes of someones handing moving about when picking, so they are often edited to be les boring and factual.
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raking

Postby raimundo » 1 Jan 2005 10:45

raking is a fast almost nervous motion, and its best to use light tension if there is no spring fighting the tensor. this will open even security pins. The most important point is that you should sand paper the rake so that its edges are rounded and not sharp, and its top and sides are smooth, so that it does not have friction in the keyway.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Postby Buggs41 » 1 Jan 2005 12:20

Follow up the sanding with either steel wool, or scotchbrite.

Your picks will resemble the awesome ones made by Raimundo! :D
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Postby kodierer » 2 Jan 2005 2:11

they may be using the snap technique, where you take either the diamond, the ball, the half ball, or the ess(not the C aka the snake) rake, and set the back pin followed by laking the rake across the pins, and pulling it out straight, and quickly. This actually requires some practice adjusting the tension wrench, so it's not entirely skill less, but very very fast
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Postby Grudge » 2 Jan 2005 5:17

Oops, typo in previous post :oops: :

A lock/key which does have much height difference between each cut is generally easier to rake. (BAD)

A lock/key which does *NOT* have much height difference between each cut is generally easier to rake. (GOOD)
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