opening a drawer lock

[benteo]

hey just started with this whole lockpicking stuff a few days ago, havent gotten a proper pick set yet but im going to try get materials to make a set. i tried opening this drawer lock that i had using a pen clip and a small screwdriver and it opened pretty easily. its a wafer lock n all i did was put the screwdriver in and push all the pins down while applying a bit of torque. are all wafer locks like this? mine has 3 pins (wafers?) and the key says 'ocean'...

[begginerlockpicker]

Congrats on pick. Wafer locks are very easy and most wafer locks do look like that. They arent "pins" they are wafers. You should read the MIT lockpicking guide very helpful http://www.gregmiller.net/locks/mitguide/
It may help to read through it a few times. If you have any other quesions use the search engine FIRST before posting.
Happy Picking


Kal

[benteo]

actually my question is do all wafer locks open so easily? the screwdriver i used as a pick wasnt altered (looks something like that -> ==--- ) and i juz put the screwdriver all the way in the lock, push all the pins down and turn the wrench and the lock opens..didnt even need to push the wafers up one by one

[BrownLeopard]

Either the wafers have very little variation, or you just brute-forced your first lock

[begginerlockpicker]

again they are wafers not "pins". They are not normally that easy after raking it a few times most wafer locks open. I suggest using something other than a srewdriver. Such as making your own picks outta hacksaw blades etc... You will need a grinder to grind the blade to a desired pick head shape. Pyro1234321 video might help with that.
Happy Picking


Kal

[Cyber Samurai]

Wafer locks are generally MUCH easier than pin and tumbler locks. With a set of real (either purchased or homemade) picks, anyone with even a bit of knowhow can compromise most wafers in just a few seconds, often exactly as you described. However, wafer locks generally aren't placed on anything where security is much of a necessity--you'll find them most often on filing cabinents, desks, and the like.


Cyber Samurai

[_Ethereal_]

Cyber Samurai - You will find Alot more than you think are harder than pin locks.

[BrownLeopard]

I agree on that point. I have found some wafer locks give me quite a bit of trouble, in fact, when I can pick quite a few pin locks of the same design.

[Cyber Samurai]

Really? I bow to your experience, then, as I have not encountered any difficult wafer locks. Where are the harder ones generally found?


Cyber Samurai

[Chucklz]

Automobiles. GM still has some sidebar wafer locks in their ignitions (Or at least the 2005 Equinox). These are no joke.

[Cyber Samurai]

No kidding? I've never tried picking an ignition. That's interesting. What is there reasoning for making the ignitions wafer rather than pin?


Cyber Samurai

[_Ethereal_]

They are cheaper by comparison to pin locks and offer a decent amount of protection, the more expensive the car the better the lock eg. BMW - 4 track locks and as stated above gm sidebar locks, which are certainly better than yout standard pin lock.

[Chucklz]

The GM sidebar, 1935 to present.

"And how, do you ask, do we keep our place in the market?
That I can answer in one word......Tradition!!"



/Tevye

[BrownLeopard]

Heh, that's what happens when I step out for a bit...someone answers for me. Yep, GM. Buicks are a real pain tho....try picking a lock during a repo (they changed the ignition) in front of their house....whew...not pretty!

[PickPick]

BMW - 4 track locks and as stated above gm sidebar locks, which are certainly better than yout standard pin lock.

If you've ever worked on BMW 4 track locks you wouldn't make that statement