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by Wolf2486 » 1 Jan 2005 20:43
I found this lock on e-bay. I did not buy it because it says "reserve not met". But I was interested to know how this lock works, and (if applicable) how this lock is manipulated. Any information is very much appreciated. This is the lock: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 36064&rd=1
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by maldotcom2 » 2 Jan 2005 5:16
I saw one of those somewhere else on this site, cant remember what its called or how to manipulate it though.
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by thertel » 2 Jan 2005 13:15
If it weren't for the shipping cost for the Netherlands to Texas I'd snap up one of those just to take it apart.
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by Peaky » 2 Jan 2005 15:12
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by oldlock » 2 Jan 2005 15:37
As long as it's fitted right, with the right escutcheons that's not a problem.
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by Peaky » 2 Jan 2005 15:45
You are of course right but 99% of them over here arnt 
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by oldlock » 2 Jan 2005 16:28
I know  Very easy to make good money from selling new high grade locks after you use really exotic tools to open a customers door - like a spanner and a pair of mole grips !
Down here we have flyscreen doors that for whatever reason are regarded by the general population as ' security doors ' which use a really crap die cast euro cyl, they pick no probs at all 99% of the time. Anyway had one the other day which was faulty in some way with a sarcastic customer say that his security door had beaten me - so out with the mole grips and door open
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by INMANATOR » 2 Jan 2005 16:29
i bet its fun trying to get spare keys cut 
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by thertel » 2 Jan 2005 17:36
Spare keys....I think to make spares for that I'd probably make a casting of it and melt some metal.
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by HeadHunterCEO » 2 Jan 2005 19:16
an awful heavy duty locxk that would hold together nicely as i pound it out with my dent puller.
that 3/16 screw can only take so much
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by oldlock » 2 Jan 2005 19:54
Try dragging the offset drive cam through the lock case, door & escutcheon though ....
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by milligan » 2 Jan 2005 20:07
I may be stating the obvious, or I may be just plain wrong, but I think that's just a lock with 4 pins on each of the 4 sides, so instead of a key with 1 set of teeth or bumps, these keys need bumps on all sides. I've seen what's called the "cross pick" (4 lockpicks back to back), and I would imagine that would work in manipulating something like this. Again, I'm not claiming to know this, it's just an assumption based on what I've seen.
EDIT: viewtopic.php?p=32830 perhaps this is what you're talking about.
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by thertel » 2 Jan 2005 20:23
I'm gonna have to say that I don't think the cross pick would work because of the 45 degree rotation once in the lock to rotate the next set of pins. Could be rather difficult. Also I think because of the required rotation to insert the key fully, which in effect is like having 2 keys. Kinda interesting, and the more we talk about it the more I am tempted to go ahead and bid on it.
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by Cyber Samurai » 2 Jan 2005 22:00
How does a lock like that work on the inside? Is it just pins as normal? If so, would it be possible to just pick it once, do the 45 degree rotation, and then pick it again?
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by HeadHunterCEO » 2 Jan 2005 22:59
oldlock wrote:Try dragging the offset drive cam through the lock case, door & escutcheon though ....
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didn't think of that
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