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by Exodus80 » 8 Dec 2004 0:47
Alright,
I am fairly new to locksmithing and lockpicking as well.
On a recent job I ran into a serious problem.....Schlage D-series locks.
First, picking these things are total hell, I haven't had much luck with them at all. On that note I just need to practice my technique some more.
But the real issue is removing the core in order to rekey it.
You must turn the key 90 degrees then depress the pin located on the handle. But if you can't seem to pick the thing after about 2 hours of trying what others options do I have? I was told something about a tool for schlage that requires disassembly of the knob from the back side and inserting a tool to depress the pin in order to get to the core? anyone have any insight as to how I get this tool or any sort of manual on what he was talking about?
Thank you
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by skold » 8 Dec 2004 0:51
1. there is the drill
2. electric pick or snap gun works faster than hand picks, with a greater success rate
3.hammer
4.impressioning
Just some other options - there are more ways to open a lock than just picking 
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by HeadHunterCEO » 8 Dec 2004 6:42
"I was told something about a tool for schlage that requires disassembly of the knob from the back side"
someone was pulling your leg
the tailpiece has gotta rotate dewgrees to allow enough clearnce to depress the button.
I use a snap gun if i am in a rush
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by Varjeal » 8 Dec 2004 15:00
#1: There is a tool.
#2: There is a way.
However, you need to first be able to remove the lock from the door, and it requires a fair amount of disassembly. Basically what you will be doing is breaking down the lock from behind, then either with the correct tool or a long probe and pair of pliers depress the pin and turn the tailpiece in order to remove the knob. It can be done. Trust me.
*insert witty comment here*
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by locksmistress » 8 Dec 2004 16:35
I don't think it's any consolation, but the same cylinders that come on the D series are also found in A series, S series and B series deadbolts. You may want to check - feel around, get a scope if you can - and make sure it isn't a high security retrofit (or Schlage high security for that matter).
Or shoot, it might be Everest. Check their website out -
http://professional.schlage.com/pc_sks_CKKS.asp
To expand on Varjeal's statement, there is more than one way - I've heard of the tool - but I've never seen it - but I've done it. It does involve developing an intimate relationship with your lock. It would probably be good - if you want to try - to not practice on a customer lock - especially one that is securing a door. Just in case.
If it's a new style D - it's totally different - and actually a lot easier. Way less to take apart.
Best of luck.
(And don't forget the holistic nature of locksmithing. The keyhole is not the only way. Sorry - I know this site is all about lockpicking - I'm just not very good at it yet but I'm working on it.)
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by Romstar » 8 Dec 2004 20:46
locksmistress wrote:Best of luck.
(And don't forget the holistic nature of locksmithing. The keyhole is not the only way. Sorry - I know this site is all about lockpicking - I'm just not very good at it yet but I'm working on it.)
Shucks Lockmistress, so long as you're here you can talk about anything you like.
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by locksmistress » 9 Dec 2004 14:24
Shucks Lockmistress, so long as you're here you can talk about anything you like.
Well golly gee, Romstar, thanks!

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by Varjeal » 9 Dec 2004 14:39
Gosh darn....any more of this high falutin' english and I might have to step up the language filter.  Hehehe...
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by Exodus80 » 1 Jan 2005 22:37
Thanks for all of your info, I guess I will just have to purchase a few and practice taking them apart, before I totally mess up a customers lock. I have still been looking into this tool my instructor was telling me about, but his description is very vague.
I really appreciate all of your time in replying, thanks alot.
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by Exodus5000 » 1 Jan 2005 23:00
Exodus80 wrote:Thanks for all of your info, I guess I will just have to purchase a few and practice taking them apart, before I totally mess up a customers lock. I have still been looking into this tool my instructor was telling me about, but his description is very vague.
I really appreciate all of your time in replying, thanks alot.
Exodus80
Hey, welcome to the forums. Looks like i'm the upgraded version of you  .
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by HeadHunterCEO » 2 Jan 2005 9:05
Exodus80 wrote:Thanks for all of your info, I guess I will just have to purchase a few and practice taking them apart, before I totally mess up a customers lock. I have still been looking into this tool my instructor was telling me about, but his description is very vague.
I really appreciate all of your time in replying, thanks alot.
Exodus80
you gotta go to IDn or somewhere and get 10 e-k keyway cylinders for lecver locks to keep on your van.
you will not be able to pick them all
drill and replace when you have too
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