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Postby zeke79 » 23 Jan 2005 23:32

It doesnt take a genius to break into a car and be fairly quiet.
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Postby plot » 23 Jan 2005 23:35

yea, i could break into any car and be queit about it...

it's gaining entry without actually 'breaking' anything that tends to throw me :wink:
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Postby zeke79 » 23 Jan 2005 23:36

it doesnt always have to be teenagers either.
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Postby Mr Ules » 24 Jan 2005 0:14

Actually, in prior break ins, I found the screw driver they used. It was bent slightly.
Another piece of information regarding opening vehicles was quite interesting. As it seems, in my area, a police officer was trying to opening a car for some people. ( slim jim ) It seems that the vehicle had side-impact air bags. The officer, whom probably tried to open the vehicle from the front passenger side. Set off the air bags. As it seems, a sharp projectile struck the officer in the throat and he was killed.
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Exactly

Postby Geek142 » 24 Jan 2005 0:14

Zeke you are correct there because i am a teenager and not that stupid to go breaking into peoples cars

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Postby MrB » 24 Jan 2005 1:03

Mr Ules wrote:The officer, whom probably tried to open the vehicle from the front passenger side. Set off the air bags. As it seems, a sharp projectile struck the officer in the throat and he was killed.

I believe this is an urban legend. There is apparently no evidence that it has ever happened, or can happen. Makes a good story to tell over a few beers though.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/slimjim.asp
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Re: Exactly

Postby skold » 24 Jan 2005 2:39

Geek142 wrote:Zeke you are correct there because i am a teenager and not that stupid to go breaking into peoples cars

cya :D


doesn't mean other aren't.
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Postby David_Parker » 24 Jan 2005 3:49

I'm still not going anywhere near a linkage rod next to a side-airbag. Not willing to take the chance.

Even if they say its 'impossible.'

How many times have we done this with locks?

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Postby Peaky » 24 Jan 2005 6:13

Ive been involved extensively with airbag testing and it was me that made all the test equipment also, it is actually very hard to set the explosive off but not impossable, the only way i can think of it happening in this situation is if all the airbag wireing had come free of its outer sleave then you actually got hold of the trigger wire from the bunch then stripped the sheath on it with your slim jim then managed to short it out to the other trigger wire which also would have to have been stripped, most cars airbags are controlled from one sensor thats usally behind the dash board, even a hammering on the steering wheel would not set most off, the instance quoted here if happened would just blow the airbag into the car and no force or explosion goes into the door cavity, afterall car makers dont want people trapped in a burning car after an accident because a side airbag has destroyed the door lock mechanisim
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Re: Exactly

Postby Geek142 » 24 Jan 2005 19:49

skold wrote:
Geek142 wrote:Zeke you are correct there because i am a teenager and not that stupid to go breaking into peoples cars

cya :D


doesn't mean other aren't.


Yeah you have a point there :D
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Postby rayman452 » 6 Feb 2005 11:29

Really, me being a teenager, I wouldn't bother with the lock. If I were american, I'd probally just use a 9mil to shoot the window open. People in america seem to be used to bullets firing all the time, like in NYC. After seeing that movie Collateral, I'm afraid to go on an american train. But me being Canadian, and a teenager, I would probally aquire a glass cutter, and make a small hole near the window above the lock. Then a little wire to pull the lock up, and BAM, your in. Then you can drive off with the window slightly open to hide the hole, and no one would be wiser, unless they checked for fingerprints.
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Postby zeke79 » 6 Feb 2005 11:50

i am sure that would not work on a piece of tempered glass. :wink:
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Postby rayman452 » 6 Feb 2005 13:19

Tempered glass??? No problem, just attach a diamond at the end of the cutter, and your in. Of course, theres always the registration method, but thats not really lockpicking.
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Postby quicklocks » 6 Feb 2005 15:26

sorry to say but its impossible to cut temperd glass. it would just shatter in to a million pieces as if you had thown a stone (rock ) at it.
temperd glass is cut and shaped then tempered by heating the two sides rapidy and letting it cool :D
heres a experiment to try
get a metal bowl fill it with water, get a glass rod (stirring stick in science lab) heat it up till it melts and let the glass drip into the water try and get a big blob. you will need a blow torch to melt the glass.
pick the droplet out the water and put it on somthing hard (wear goggles)
you can now hit the fat end with a hammer and it should not break but if you bend the tail it will shatter
you just made temperd glass :D
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Postby rayman452 » 6 Feb 2005 15:38

"We do the difficult. The impossible just takes a little longer"-United States Marines


Its not impossible to cut the tempered glass, its just no one has found a way to do it yet. Im thinking if I chemically treat the glass and then cut it. WAit, what car has tempered glass?
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