We need a little help from UK 'smiths

[Chucklz]

Could some of our UK friends help us identify and give some general comments about the following Lever locks (Available in the US now!)


http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?itemTyp ... temID=5516

http://www.vandykes.com/product/02009129/

http://www.vandykes.com/product/02014056/

http://www.vandykes.com/product/02009120/

http://www.vandykes.com/product/02009132/


I realise that an ID may be impossible with so many manufacturers repainting cases etc. Any help at all/ recommendations would be much appreciated.

[MrB]

The Squire brass padlocks look beautiful! You could buy one and hang it on your gate as a work of art, regardless of whether you have fun picking it or not.

I'll wait with interest for someone from the UK lockie business to identify the door locks. Although being aimed at the restoration market, it doesn't look like they are really high security products.

[Wallaby]

great to see these getting across the water ...

the last two look like unions ... a 3 lever union - easy pick with 2 wires ... and a security 5 lever union with a curtain (non BS as no hardplate) - another easy pick with any curtain pick (SF/RB etc) ...

$30 for 3 lever lock - wow - im going to start exporting to the usa !

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[Wallaby]

the last one looks like J2201/2101 area to me and will not have antipicks ... easy pick ....

[EvoRed]

The last one, the Union 2201, doesn't have anti picks Quicklocks. It's an easy pick with a curtain wheel pick, about a minute, even for a relative novice...

Edited to say: Edit function works on this post! And too slow, you beat me to it Wallaby.

[pinky]

hi
the last one is a union 2201 security, it has no antipicks and is picked in under 30 seconds with a curtain pick and under a minute with 2 wires, the one before is a standard 3 lever union case, id by the grey case and raised lip around keyway, under a minute with wires or 2 in 1 pick, the other is a black 2 lever and black 3 lever union, 2 lever is warded, both pick with 2 wires quickly, the squire padlocks pick easily with a pipe padlock 2 in 1 pick.

the locks are all basic non bs locks and wont cause you too many headaches, all simple to pick, we expect novices on the course to pick these in under a minute following a little instruction.

not great locks and none are good enough to be insurance approved in the uk, but its a start to wet your appetite on, introduce different types of anti pick and then it gets interesting

happy picking guys

[pinky]

quicklocks i cant wait to see you next month, after 10 mins you wont talk about drilling these again, the 2 wires you need for a 1 minute opening are cheaper than your drill point and quicker.

[Wallaby]

sorry Evo, just nipped in there before you ... even if it was a B.S. 2134/2234, it would be only 5 mins with the union pick ....

[pinky]

wallaby the union bs as you know is as quick with the curtain pick as the union kit is and more fun.

[Wallaby]

yes, you are quite right, Mr 'Houdini Gella Daniels Copperfield Blaine' Pinky ....

and silly me for not trying the hard way first .. you can of course get the BS versions with a curtain pick ...

but as i have the union pick, i have to play with it sometimes ! Now would you insult a pick like a CB on such a low life lock .. lol

W.

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[pinky]

quicklocks

when done with you mate you will love that there curtain pick, and the bs picks will give you more pleasure than a busty blonde, or is it the other way round.
quicklocks we have something in common , my wife calls me too quick ?

wallaby as we all know the cb pick does those with the low lever and the king of bs picks does the rest.

[toomush2drink]

I love thedescription on the union security sash lock that says " where a skeleton key lock is required"

Ok they are easy but "skeleton key" ?
Our cross chanel translations must really confuse the newbs

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