Little help please

[Eschatos]

Ok then, what were those extra 5 pins then? Spacers?

Then you go on to state you've read the MIT guide several times. ugh.

Good luck in your travels.

[stick]

Actually, the MIT guide refers to master pins as spacers, which, obviously, is another name for master pins. It seems he actually has read the MIT guide, and was simply looking for confirmation.

[rayman452]

I have figured that putting all my questions in one thread is much better then makeing new ones, although looking at the FAQ is a good idea, and I do that often. Im probally just not looking at the right sites. I have another kwikset lock, but its on the actual knob. Would that be a 5 pin also, and a good lock to attack next? And someone answer the masterlock question and what type of lock would be on my serverbox door?

Ill put pictures if nessacary...

[Peaky]

I see now we are getting down to the truth,

Listen,
Press on the section that has all the Q+A's then read every thread and every post.

[rayman452]

no place really has a Q+A section...but I constantly look at all the harder locks. Kwikset locks are getting easy, but i think im gonna have to make a better torsion wrench. Making out outa wiper blades now. If i were to work of security pins next, after i picked the kwikset many times with different pin combinations, which would be the best type of security pin to work on next? spool?

[jason]

[Chucklz]

For your turning tool, you probably wont get much better material than wiper blade inserts/ or street sweeper bristles. What are you doing to make your turning tools?

Your server box lock is a wafer lock. You picked the "extra" wafer in the back that serves to keep the plug in the lock. You esentially removed it for rekeying.

[rayman452]

now chuklz knows how to answer questions...I've made my torsion wrench out of a wiperblade insert, simply by using two pliers and bending them into shape. They seem to be working, and I've managed to pick my Krypto bike lock. As for the server door, since its a wafer lock, I can't pick it right? I have to use the wafer keys to open it? or those are warden. But if it is warden you need the key for, how would you pick a wafer? the exact same way? And someone please answer the weiser lock one? I want conformation on if it is a security lock and what type of pin it uses, so i know what technique to use. I've visited the weiser site, and looked many place else, but can seem to find it.

[Chucklz]

You can pick a wafer lock with "standard" picks. Most wafer locks installed on cabinets and display cases are very easy to pick. Most of these locks are what I would call convenience locks, as they offer little security. Now, there are many high security wafer locks that do offer good security, some automotive locks (especially those with sidebars) and some of the Ingersoll locks that use wafers to drive levers come to mind. You have indeed picked your server lock, as you were able to remove the core.

Another quick word on tension tools, you shoudl never have them bend (in a negative sense, you may find you want to bend your wrenches to fit your style) while you are picking. If so, you are using too much tension.

I've never heard of weiser putting out anything that can be consiered even security. You may find that some are hard to pick, due to the plastic plug or lack of maintinence etc.

[Eschatos]

Ahh, I misunderstood what rayman was saying when i posted on this thread. I thought he was picking a lock which wasn't masterkeyed.

My mistake.

[rayman452]

Ok, i tried to pick the weiser, and I just couldn't. It appeared that all the pins were binded, but the lock just wouldnt open. Im gonna keep at it, and what do you mean by plastic plugs?

[rayman452]

someone? plastic plugs?

[MrB]

Find a lock breakdown diagram that labels all the parts. See the part labelled plug. Imagine that made of plastic. Sorry to be facetious, but newbie baiting is sometimes irresistible.

I haven't seen a plastic plug myself, but I'll take peoples' word for it. From my own very limited experience, cheap import locks like EZ Set can be better made than domestic originals like Kwikset. An EZ Set lock of mine was constructed very similarly to a Schlage with a brass plug and a brass screw on plug retaining cap.

[Romstar]

Well, it's not so much a plastic plug as it is a plastic cylinder.

These are found most commonly in key in knob sets, where the core is made of Delrin, and the plug is made of plated zinc.

Romstar

[MrB]

Oh, thanks for the correction Romstar.