Is there a difference between these 2?

[Hollywood]

Hey All,
I was just Interested in finding out if there is a difference between

Peterson's

AD-B American Padlock Bypass tool


and the Lockpicks.com Version
http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=127


Also I was wondering if these bypass tools are Capable of opening the Master 6230 series locks?

TIA

[Pickermeapie]

They both look the same to me, Peterson does a little better of a job of presenting it, I think though. As far as it extending into Master, I think this tool just takes advantage of the American 700 'defect'. I don't believe the Master 6230 Series can be bypassed with this. Happy by-passing.
-Pickermeapie

[skold]

Does any one have a scale pic of these, and instructions on how to use this tool, i have a friend who will give me his american 700 if i can pick it.

[stick]

All it is is a thin wire/hook that's used to manipulate the locking mechanism. It'll only work on the older locks which didn't have protective covers (how they forgot something like that is beyond me).

[skold]

It's alright this one is one of them older models...how do i do this?

[Hollywood]

Does any one have a scale pic of these, and instructions on how to use this tool, i have a friend who will give me his american 700 if i can pick it.

here are the Instructions from Peterson's Site


Bypass Tool Instructions

1. The straight wire segment of this tool is placed in the CENTER of the keyway, with the flag segment of the tip pointed AWAY from the pins, and is therefore riding along the bottom of the keyway. Continue insertion until the rear of the cylinder is reached.

2. Putting a LIGHT clockwise rotational pressure on the tool, and a LIGHT inward pressure into the lock, rotationally wiggle the tool within the keyway (HINT: think of the motion of a jump rope). If there is no blocking wafer in the lock, you will feel the tool “settle in”, and the tool gently rotate clockwise. (There are times when relaxing the inward pressure will allow the tool to “settle in” more quickly.)

3. Continue the clockwise motion while pushing in on the shackle and the lock will open.

IMPORTANT: Do not become impatient and attempt to use this device as a “force tool.” The tool may become damaged. If you are unable to make this tool work within 60 seconds, you have probably encountered a lock that has a blocking wafer behind the cylinder. See reverse side of this instruction.
IMPORTANT: Do not become impatient and attempt to use this device as a “force tool.” The tool may become damaged. If you are unable to make this tool work within 60 seconds, you have probably encountered a lock that has a blocking wafer installed in it. See the following breaker instruction.

[skold]

Thanks Hollywood, these instructions will be usefull( as you can see i am too lazy to bother picking it untill i have at least 6 hours free time.)

[Johnny P]

Actually, American lock was bought by Master lock at least a couple of years ago.

They, this past year, closed down the American plant in Crete, Illinois.