Medeco can blow the wind out of your sails

[David_Parker]

It was a lever lock and I had just raked it and it was open in, like, 10 seconds

Medeco makes lever locks? This I did not know. Nor did I know that its possible to 'rake' lever locks open.

Perhaps you mean a lever handled lock?


-Dave.

[Wolf2486]

Johnny P said

Anyway, if the original locksmith hadn't neglected to replace the sidebar when he pinned these locks, I never would have been able to pick these.

So in other words it was a Medeco without a sidebar, hence it would not be too hard. Also, Medeco Bi-axle locks can be picked in 3 minutes. Apparently, Barry Wels did so. I guess a proper analogy is Jeff Sitar is to safes as Barry Wels is to locks.

[Johnny P]

Like I said.

This and the other office locks on Medeco were master-keyed and the sidebar was not ut back after the locks were re-keyed. And yes, I did run a rake in and out and yes, they did open each time. If they hadn't picked, I would have gone to my under-door tool, but they did pick.

Like I said, it's the side bar.

[Johnny P]

Yes, it was a lever-handle. The Medeco was a cylinder made to be used with Schlage D levers and the fool didn't replace the side bar.

The locks were also master-keyed which afforded more shear lines.

[kehveli]

Johnny, you must get your terminology straight. At least in this forum a lock with lever handles is not called a lever lock. If you want to mean a lever-handled lock please state it by typing 'lever-handled' or something like that.

As lever lock is a completly different type that is also picked differently, you can really confuse many of us by using the term 'lever lock' of lever-handled locks.

[raimundo]

Lever handle locks were made in the US when the government published standards for accessibiliity for handicaped people, after a law called "the Americans with Disabilities Act" was passed,. consequently, such locks are often called ADA locks. Perhaps there is another term. Generally the term lever lock refers to lever tumblers, and is only discussed here by the british.

[MrB]

True, true, but I believe lever latch and knob latch are the correct terms for door latch assemblies of that description? If they are lockable, they would be key in knob or key in lever latches.

Whether or not influenced by the ADA, lever latches are widely found in commercial buildings because they are much easier for everyone to operate, not just those with disabilities. Consider trying to turn a door knob with both hands full.

[raimundo]

They are also good for the locksmith business, because big apes break them deliberately, much more easily than they can break a knoblock

[raimundo]

he said the medeco he picked had its side bar removed, and that other linke to the fortliberty site says that medeco has a tight restricted keyway, unless refering to keymark, thats bushit

[EricM]

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... RS=3987654

Here is the patent for the tool that you guys were talking about on pages 3.

It's a doozy if I do say so myself.

[Shrub]

And yet when i mentioned this idea (great minds think alike eh) i was shot down and told it could not be done!

Well spotted Eric.

[mmilitiar]

Those locks seem hard.

[LockNewbie21]

There not hard.. i dont say that with meaning i pick anyone anywhere in 5 secs. But It would be possible if someone sat down for alonnggg time and studied every feel and such.. but by then medeco will come out with a new one.. so yea there pretty darn hard

[Deathadder]

i dont think ive ever seen a more complicated lock as the biaxial (aka: egobuster) i dont have one, but i tried mentally picking it and i still cant do it

[Deathadder]

how much are they anyways? hehe i might get one to see what you guys are talkin about