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by **rayman452** » 6 Feb 2005 16:17

Whats the contact infromation for the Crypto website? (http://www.crypto.com)? Just want to know if I can get a picture of their pins and stuff, mostly because I'm too lazy to get the picture for myself. Im also hoping for some people like the ones who helped me in hitman666's thread to help me out a little with this thead. If ytou can do either, please post.

by **stick** » 6 Feb 2005 16:22

The email addies Matt Blaze gives are mab@crypto.com and blaze@cis.upenn.edu

by **rayman452** » 6 Feb 2005 16:36

When I email these people, can I say I'm trying to create a guide for lockpicking101, or I have to say I'm just trying to create my own guide? Stick, I would feel honored if you were one of them members who were to help me along the way of creating my first guide, and putting you in the helping credits. Will you help me with this, since you seem knowledgeable, and anyone else whom is willing to help me make a guide to shut those newbies up? post here if you are. thx...

by **stick** » 6 Feb 2005 16:40

I think it best if you avoid mentioning lockpicking101 for now. If they ask, don't hide the fact, but it seems that this forum doesn't shine too brightly in the eyes of some other groups. As for help with the guide, I'm certainly willing to provide my assistance.

by **rayman452** » 6 Feb 2005 16:51

Alright thanks, its really usefull. Just so I have proper terminology so that the new people wont have to learn it by themselves, like I did, can you identify what each individual name for the numbers are?

I know number 3 is called the spring, and collectively they are known as the pin stack. They are located in the pin-tumbler lock, and are the most basic parts. I dont want to get into spacers, but if you think its a good idea, ill get into them with and show them pics and stuffs. opinion?

by **stick** » 6 Feb 2005 17:00

If you've put them there in order, #2 is the top pin and #1 bottom pin. I have a big test tube full of pins and springs, and access to a new digital camera that can take some high quality pictures, so I can provide some pictures.

by **rayman452** » 6 Feb 2005 17:02

yes!!!!!pictures PLEASE!!!!! If only I had such pictures when I was learning how to lockpick, then life would have been good. In the guide, can I call you my assistant side kick?

by **rayman452** » 6 Feb 2005 17:12

can you post a picture of all 5 pinstacks like how they would be like in a lock? Have all the stacks lined up on a ruler or something, to show what it would look like inside the lock without the key. so something looking along the lines of this
+ <===Top
= + - <===Pins
| | | <===Bottom pins

hope you understand what I mean, thanks...

by **MrB** » 6 Feb 2005 17:46

rayman, see my post in the soon-to-be-deleted I STILL CAN'T PICK thread for some more info.

by **MrB** » 6 Feb 2005 17:55

Also, search for a post by matt_blaze on this site, where he says:

"Linking to my web pages is fine (indeed, it's the accepted way of
referencing other people's material on the web)..."

So you don't need to ask for permission if you just link to one of his pages containing the photo you want to refer to. Just make sure to link to the whole page containing the "Copyright Matt Blaze" statement, and it would be polite to say something like "follow this link for one of Matt Blaze's excellent photos".

(Matt Blaze's photography really is good, by the way.)

by **WhiteHat** » 6 Feb 2005 18:21

rayman452 wrote:can I say I'm trying to create a guide for lockpicking101

there is a guide in process that's going to kick all the other guide's collective asses, and its' release is imminent.... and by Imminent, I mean more imminent than 4 months ago when I said it was imminent. :roll:

not that I have a monopoly on creating guides or anything :oops:

, but we have a few contributors and I'm pretty sure all of them know the names of the pins you find in locks...

anyway......

by **MrB** » 6 Feb 2005 18:39

Naming things is a way of guarding knowledge and keeping it from the uninitiated.

If you hear about about driver pins, you have to learn first what they are.

If you hear about the pointy ended pins that sit on the key, and the flat ended pins above them that the spring pushes down on, then the picture is clear.

Obligatory smiley:

by **rayman452** » 7 Feb 2005 15:42

Wow, I like this feedback. Just wondering now, whats the official name for where the pins go? the Pin hole?

by **Redbull83** » 7 Feb 2005 19:04

there is a guide in process that's going to kick all the other guide's collective asses, and its' release is imminent.... and by Imminent, I mean more imminent than 4 months ago when I said it was imminent.

not that I have a monopoly on creating guides or anything , but we have a few contributors and I'm pretty sure all of them know the names of the pins you find in locks...

I'm interested in this. Sounds like something worth looking at.

by **MrB** » 7 Feb 2005 19:14

I'm not sure there's absolutely an official name for any part of a lock. It's just a matter of convention and common usage.

I think where the pins and springs go would probably be called the pin chambers.

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