gun locks suck, why?

[tank12983]

I have a SouthOrd MPXS-20 (20 pick and tension tools) and a PXS-05 (5 picks and tension tools) which I think are two pretty decent lock picking sets. But what I really want to know is why gun locks suck so much. I picked four cable locks and one trigger guard lock with the pxs-05. The four cable locks were nothing, the only thing I had to do was insert a half diamond rake into the back pin area and apply tension and it swung the cylinder like nothing. I didn't rake it at all. The trigger guard I inserted the tension wrench so that it was lifting the back pin slightly and it opened when I twisted it. Nothing but the tension wrench. I thought that there was supposed to be some sort of standard for locks on something important like guns. Could someone maybe explain why gun locks suck?

[Wesson357]

Aparently http://www.security.org/ agrees with you, they are insanely easy to pick.

[D_Shane]

The gun locks are not meant to keep people from stealing your weapon, they are meant to keep youngsters mainly from accidentally firing it.

[tank12983]

even though they are just ment to stop people from using the gun, gun locks should atleast be a challenge but know and a determined toddler coukld get some of these locks off

[zeke79]

the problem with that is cost. I have purchased a safe that was over 2000 usd. On top of that if I was to add 20 usd to that cost for each firearm I have, i wouldnt buy them. I would depend on the safe. Many others out there do not have the safe nor would spend 20usd for a decent trigger lock when one could be had for 3.95.

[tank12983]

i have come up with only one reason why gun company make cheap locks. they were sued for the mistake of others. some kid blows his head off because his daddy left a gun loaded in the sock drawer. every one is sueing some one else, ever one is blaming some one else for there mistakes. in califormia a robber sued a family because he broke into there garage and the door locked on him so he was stuck there for the weekend. that outragous. A GUN IS A TOOL! just like lock picks and hammer. the day i let an oficer of the "law" say to me do you have a licence for that screwdriver and i pull out a licence for posessing small craftsmen tool is the day i go ape sh** and kill our oppressive ruler

beside survival of the fittest. the kid who swallows too many marball deosn't grow up to have kid of his own.

just cause i'm paranoid deosn't mean there not after me

[MarcTheBaker]

Yeah, I just got my lockpicks yesterday and since I don't really have locks laying all over, I used the first one I could find. The one on my Ruger.
I managed to pick the thing in about 3 rakes. (which either said a lot about me, or a lot about the lock.)

I have spent about 45 minutes trying to get it open again, and have yet to succeed. Beginers luck... Grr.

Kwiksets, here I come...

[catzmeow]

Not that these would be any different from any other tubular, they may be more of a challenge than an average weapon lock.

Just a thought.

lockinventor.com

[tank12983]

and a good thought at that at least with a tubular lock i could not open it as easaly. yes i know that there are cheap tubular tock too but i couldn't open that with a paper clip

[CaptHook]

Well... I think the problem lies in the fact that gun makers are required by law in many states to include the lock, to save time they include them with all their firearms. Going at it from a business standpoint, they are going to go with the lowest bidder as far as the locks go because of the economics. If they had a top quality lock manufacter making their locks, they would have to adjust retails or take the loss. Knowing gun buyers are not going to want to spend the extra few dollars, and they dont want to take a loss........... you do the math.
Chuck

[mckutzy]

hey i used a street cleaner bristle, it was open in about 2-3 min. well after looking at the key, the cuts were fairly strait wich helped. but they only had 4 pins. one would think that they would put a spool or mushroom pin in there. so much for high security

[Buggs41]

hey i used a street cleaner bristle, it was open in about 2-3 min. well after looking at the key, the cuts were fairly strait which helped. but they only had 4 pins. one would think that they would put a spool or mushroom pin in there. so much for high security

Those locks are only meant to be a safety feature. THEY ARE NOT A SECURITY LOCK!

The purpose is to prevent accidental discharge of the weapon by a child. That is all!

[Kith]

The locks are nothing more then a deterrent (but then again aren't all locks?)

Bear this in mind - all the trigger lock does is make the trigger itself not move (I saw one once that just clipped around the guard and still allowed the trigger to move inside when I was waay younger in scouts).

So maybe a more accurate discription would be that a trigger lock disallows access to the trigger itself, preventing a mechanical manipulation (i.e. pulling it towards the stock,grip,handle, whatever you wanna call it ) of the trigger.

The gun can still go off whether the trigger moves or not, all it does is cut the chances of an accidental discharge down by removing one means of firing the weapon.

[mckutzy]

the best is probably the cable lock that goes through the action blocking the insertion of a magizine and/or closing of the breach. but yes of course that is corect, they are just a deterant