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Misdemeanor?

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Misdemeanor?

Postby MagicWhiteGuy » 23 Jul 2003 11:52

Somebody said having a pick set in your possession in the US is a misdemeanor.. would that person be correct?
whats a.. pin..?
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Postby safecracker » 23 Jul 2003 15:57

Depends on the state your in, I know washington don't even regulate it lol
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Postby lp » 23 Jul 2003 20:30

I don't know about all the states but I do know one thing that would probably apply to most states. It is not a misdemenor to have a lock picking set in your possession unless you are going to use it to comit burglary or know someone who will comit burglary. I know this is forsure in Washington and Oregon.
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Postby safecracker » 23 Jul 2003 22:33

you gotta watch it cuz they can class them as burglry tools and charge you but like I said SOME states
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Postby jippythefrog » 29 Jul 2003 13:45

would you happen to know if there illegal in minnesota?
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Postby safecracker » 29 Jul 2003 14:06

I'll look into it, I think It's time for me to write a text on the laws of lockpicking.
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Postby safecracker » 29 Jul 2003 14:20

most states have a law similar to this, this 1 is actually for Oregon and is part of SENATE BILL 466.

A person commits the crime of possession of
{ - burglar's tools if the person possesses any burglar tool
with the intent to use the tool or knowing that some person
intends to use the tool to commit or facilitate a forcible entry
into premises or theft by a physical taking - } { + a burglary
tool or theft device if the person possesses a burglary tool or
theft device and the person:
' (a) Intends to use the tool or device to commit or facilitate
a forcible entry into premises or a theft by a physical taking;
or
' (b) Knows that another person intends to use the tool or
device to commit or facilitate a forcible entry into premises or
a theft by a physical taking + }.
' (2) { - ' Burglar tool' - } { + For purposes of this
section, ' burglary tool or theft device' + } means an acetylene
torch, electric arc, burning bar, thermal lance, oxygen lance or
other similar device capable of burning through steel, concrete
or other solid material, or nitroglycerine, dynamite, gunpowder
or any other explosive, tool, instrument or other article adapted
or designed for committing or facilitating a forcible entry into
premises or theft by a physical taking.
' (3) Possession of { - burglar's tools - } { + a burglary
tool or theft device + } is a Class A misdemeanor.
' { + SECTION 2. + } ORS 164.225 is amended to read:
' 164.225. (1) A person commits the crime of burglary in the
first degree if the person violates ORS 164.215 and the building
is a dwelling, or if in effecting entry or while in a building or
in immediate flight therefrom the person:
' (a) Is armed with a { - burglar's tool - } { + burglary
tool or theft device + } as defined in ORS 164.235 or a deadly
weapon; { - or - }
' (b) Causes or attempts to cause physical injury to any
person; or
' (c) Uses or threatens to use a dangerous weapon.
' (2) Burglary in the first degree is a Class A felony.

they can pretty much say that that was your intent whether it was or not, but in most states there are no spacific laws on lockpick tools. It's 1 of those sitting on the fence type of arguements.
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misdemeanor

Postby beginner picker » 1 Aug 2003 21:38

hey safecracker would u mind looking to see if its illegall to have lock pick sets in michigan PLEAAAZZZZZZZ if so thanks.
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Postby digital_blue » 29 Jul 2006 15:14

Did you ever find out?








LOL... this was really a joke. I just wanted to set the record for the best thread resurrection ever! :D
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misdemeaner

Postby scampdog » 29 Jul 2006 16:18

these laws are ridiculously over the top,before long you wont be able to carry a credit card,because you could be accused of going equiped to slip a lock.
there's no such thing as gravity.The earth SUCKS!!
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Postby Shrub » 29 Jul 2006 16:37

Db, i seem to remember someone bringing up an earlier thread than this one a few weeks ago but it was still a '03 one :wink:
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Postby digital_blue » 29 Jul 2006 16:53

Really? Earlier than this one??? The last post in this thread was only 4 months after the site started!

Which one?!?!?! Show me!! :D

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Postby Shrub » 29 Jul 2006 16:59

Now your asking, im off in a few mins as ive an early start but i shall seek it out, i think it was a June '03 thread on a padlock or somthing, ill look tomorrow night for ya :wink:

What was the first post i wonder? if its still here,
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Postby Krypos » 30 Jul 2006 0:34

the first post was probably like:

TEST. this is a test to see if anyone will come here to learn to pick locks. test. test.

HTML test:

blah blah blah.

circle gets the star, adn you just one free thermite!

woot! waffles!

SPAMMER - Do Not View *****.....so hott. so hott. ahem, excuse me for about 5 minutes. :D

or something stupid like that. or i could be very wrong and it could ahve just been like welcome!
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Postby digital_blue » 31 Jul 2006 14:13

So, shall I assume then that I've set the record for best thread resurrection? :P

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