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by DBCooper » 10 Feb 2005 14:05
I have read through the forums and understand some of the pick resistant methods employed by lock manufacturers, such as Medco.
However, I even seen a lot of lower quality locks which describe themselves as "Pick Resistant". Schlage uses this in the literature for the B300 and B600 (not lower quality, but same desription as B300 series) series of locks.
What do they mean? Is the keyway designed to hamper picking, or are the pins shapded funny, etc.
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by frostbyte » 10 Feb 2005 14:45
From my experience, Pick-resistant means somebody in marketing wanted it to say Pick-resistant on the package and promotional material.
Some do actually employ strategies to complicate picking, and some are pretty darn effective. But the terms themsevles are not regulated in any way, so could mean anything, or nothing.
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by DBCooper » 10 Feb 2005 15:06
Thanks for the info, I figured it was some such marketing term.
Just like zero gravity or microgravity.
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by Cyber Samurai » 10 Feb 2005 18:09
Pick resistant can mean a lot of different things. Medeco locks are pick resistant, as they employ the sidebar and excellent craftsmanship to complicate picking. Some Best locks are pick resistant because of the presence of two shear lines to complicate picking. Some well made padlocks have tight machining standards, making it more difficult to determine the correct order to set pins in, etc. And, of course, some locks that claim to be pick resistant can be picked in a matter of seconds. Just like "high quality," the term is a matter of perspective.
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by mcm757207 » 10 Feb 2005 18:36
Cyber Samurai wrote: Some Best locks are pick resistant because of the presence of two shear lines to complicate picking.
Actually, the more shear lines the easier it is to pick.
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by Romstar » 10 Feb 2005 18:42
mcm151201 wrote:Cyber Samurai wrote: Some Best locks are pick resistant because of the presence of two shear lines to complicate picking.
Actually, the more shear lines the easier it is to pick.
In master-key maybe, but in I-Core its a different ball of wax.
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by mcm757207 » 10 Feb 2005 18:47
Oh yeah I guess so... my bad. You have to get them all at the same shear line or it won't turn... you'll either unlock it or pull out the core.
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by CaptHook » 10 Feb 2005 23:24
Holy crap........ HE SURVIVED....did you keep the money????.....
Anyhow... yep, its a marketing ploy. McDonalds wouldnt say their sandwiches tasted like crap now would they?
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by digital_blue » 11 Feb 2005 3:18
In a couple of the lesser locks I've purchased, "pick resistant" simply means they employ a spool pin or two. I suppose that counts, as it is somewhat harder than if there were no spools at all. I have a "contractors grade" master padlock that said pick resistant on the package. It took about 2 1/2 minutes to pick the first time. I think I spent more time opening the shrink-wrapped-freeze-dried-hermetically-sealed blister pack it was wrapped in.
Happy picking!
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by Cyber Samurai » 11 Feb 2005 4:09
mcm151201 wrote:Oh yeah I guess so... my bad. You have to get them all at the same shear line or it won't turn... you'll either unlock it or pull out the core.
Yeah, whenever I feel one finally go, I cross my fingers that it will be the core pulling out set, but it never is. I'd love to take one of those apart and play with it...
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by raimundo » 11 Feb 2005 11:06
Hey DB, whatever happened about that little incident in the skies over oregon way back, didja get that cleared up?
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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by DBCooper » 11 Feb 2005 12:16
raimundo - quiet, they are listening  .... I didn't plan on the river.
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by SFGOON » 11 Feb 2005 13:23
Peterson picks has a kit they produce to bypass I-core locks. They seem to work pretty well, as they allow for direct tension on the control lug.
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by Cyber Samurai » 12 Feb 2005 17:42
I've heard about that, but I was unable to find them on their website. Does anyone have a direct link?
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by stick » 12 Feb 2005 20:58
Try looking under the I-core tools page... It's not really a kit that allows you to bypass IC locks, just specially made tension tools that make it much easier to pick the control shear line.
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