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"Pick Proof Lock"

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"Pick Proof Lock"

Postby subtlevoice » 14 Feb 2005 1:12

http://www.onguardlocks.com/beastchain.html

"Pick Proof"

What sort of technology is inside this lock?
They've got to be full of crap, right? Nothing is 'pick-proof'.
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Postby vector40 » 14 Feb 2005 1:43

I've seen one of these, and honestly couldn't figure out how it worked. More of a personal failing than any trait of the lock, but it's certainly a little bit abnormal. You could probably email OnGuard and see if they'll tell you what kind of tumbler is used.
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Postby tastyfish » 14 Feb 2005 7:23

hmm, i think iv seen that link(and the same question) in another thread, but anyway, I beleive nothing is "pick proof" if it has pins/waffers or anything else with a non-magnetic keyhole it can be picked, its proberly just really hard.
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uses abloy

Postby raimundo » 14 Feb 2005 12:12

that uses a double sided abloy.
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Postby Grudge » 14 Feb 2005 12:15

When a manufacturer says it's 'pick proof' what they really mean is they have tricked out the key, keyway and/or the disks/pins so they can't be reasonably picked with a standard Southord set. However, the fine folks over at TOOOL seem to show again and again that all you need is the right equipment to make these locks yield (sometimes easily). Maybe, "Pick Proof For The First Few Weeks" might be more accurate. :wink:
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Postby tastyfish » 15 Feb 2005 1:31

heh, stupid sales pitch... i wonder if you couls sue them for fals avertising if you picked it infront of them... hmm proberly not though.
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Postby vector40 » 15 Feb 2005 4:33

If raimundo's right, then I guess the real question is whether anyone's picked a double-sided Abloy of similar configuration. If so, they should send OnGuard a video or something :P
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Postby tastyfish » 15 Feb 2005 5:05

yea but how many people can actually pick an abloy (i only know one) and well... they dont exactly look like an easy lock to pick
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Postby skold » 15 Feb 2005 6:01

they look about as easy to pick as it is a as easy to breathe...

the lock is all dressed up, when really it is crap, the chain is the only good feature, a double sided abloy is the same as any abloy, but can be opened but putting the key in any way..
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Postby DBCooper » 15 Feb 2005 15:03

Such cynics .... or is it optimists? I guess it depends on your outlook.
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Postby tastyfish » 16 Feb 2005 1:51

lets just say cynical optamisim, that works nicely
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Postby funboy79015 » 16 Feb 2005 5:26

Maybe I'm wrong but the lock that they call "pick-proof" is the one on the left which looks like a combination lock to me. Note the buttons on the top of the lock.

If it is a combination lock then it is unpickable in that you can't insert tools into a keyhole and manipulate the lock from the inside to get the lock to open.
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Postby tastyfish » 17 Feb 2005 3:29

They are disk locks, not combo locks, go to the "disk lock" link on the page and you'll see the same lock with the same sales pitch next to it.
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Postby funboy79015 » 17 Feb 2005 4:01

Indeed I was wrong. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Postby skold » 17 Feb 2005 5:48

Disklocks are fun, and goodluck if trying to pick this particular style of lock.
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