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by meatwad » 20 Feb 2005 10:33
i just started, and can easly onpe a master lock # 3. I was just wondering what you guys would recomend as a second lock??? thz!
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by frostbyte » 20 Feb 2005 10:40
Maybe a cheaper dead-bolt. You can take them apart easily and reduce the pins to a level you are comfortable with. Later as skill increases you can put pins back. You can also swap pins around to make the lock harder or easier to pick. (Note: Key will not work once you do this.)
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by kodierer » 22 Feb 2005 12:42
I think brinks makes some pretty good locks for beginners to learn on. I recommend a rekeyable padlock. My brinks has a large keyway, for working room, and the rekeying feature is very helpful.
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by digital_blue » 22 Feb 2005 15:37
You could try any inexpensive deadbolt. If you find it too hard to start, take out all but 1 pin and learn to pick that. Then add another pin, etc.
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by skold » 22 Feb 2005 15:47
A kwikset deadbolt, Brinks rekeyable padlock, anything thats is keyable..(and easy)
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by zekeo » 28 Feb 2005 1:16
Just a note of interest--when shopping for deadbolts to practice on, the only "kwikset" brand ones available were labeled "pick resistant" with a little diagram on the back pointing to "pick resistant pins." I doubt these are extraordinarily difficult, but probably not great for a beginner. I bougt an "atlas" brand lock instead, easy to take out some pins to practice. Maybe better advice would be to buy a $9.99 deadbolt without pick protection rather than just a kwikset.
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by MrB » 28 Feb 2005 1:57
Actually, "pick resistant pins" is just a fairly meaningless marketing phrase on Kwiksets. I think it might mean that the keys have extreme high/low cuts that make picking harder than otherwise.
To the best of my knowledge, Kwiksets of the Security and Maximum Security variety don't have any security pins. I'm not sure about the Ultimate Security but that is in any case more difficult to pick and is probably not a beginner's lock.
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by vector40 » 28 Feb 2005 2:15
I'd suspect if they actually POINTED at the security pins, they aren't just bullshitting you, though 
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by MrB » 28 Feb 2005 3:44
vector40 wrote:I'd suspect if they actually POINTED at the security pins, they aren't just bullshitting you, though 
S'possible, I suppose. But the Kwikset Maximum Security deadbolt package I have in my hand says "Pick Resistant 5-Pin System" on the outside, and there were no security pins in the lock. They could have updated the lock since I bought it maybe, although Kwiksets are not known for having security pins.
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