Dismantling A ERA Tumbler Lock

by **Peaky** » 23 Feb 2005 14:35

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A TUBE IS?

A TUBE IS A ROD OF MATERIAL THAT IS ROUND IN SHAPE AND HAS A HOLE THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PIECE OF SOLID BAR IS?

A PIECE OF SOLID BAR IS A ROD OF MATERIAL THAT DOESNT HAVE A HOLE THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

YOU CAN USE EITHER A TUBE OR A SOLID BAR AS A FOLLOWER.

IF YOU HAVE SOMTHING OR CAN FIND SOMTHING ROUND AND LONG YOU ARE GETTING THERE,

FIND SOMTHING ROUND AND LONG THAT IS APPROXIMATLEY HALF AN INCH DIAMETER (THAT IS 12.7MM OR 1.27CM) AND 4-5 INCHES LONG (THATS 100MM-125MM APPROX OR 10CM-12.5CM APPROX) AND YOU HAVE A PLUG FOLLOWER.

YOU COULD USE A PLASTIC MARKER PEN IF ITS AROUND THE RIGHT SIZE, YOU COULD USE A PIECE OF WOODEN DOWL IF ITS THE RIGHT SIZE OR YOU COULD USE A TAMPON FOR ALL I CARE AS LONG AS IT FITS THE SPACE WHERE YOU NORMALLY WOULD FIND THE CYLINDER PLUG (THE BIT THAT YOU PUT THE KEY INTO AND MOVES ROUND),

RE-READ THIS THREAD AND IT EXPLAINS IT ALL, IF YOU ARE STILL UNSURE THEN YOU MUST RE-READ THE MIT GUIDE OVER AND OVER AND LOOK ON HOW STUFF WORKS TO WORK OUT WHAT THE PHRASES AND MEANINGS WE USE, THEN YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPOON FEED YOU ANYMORE, WE HAVE HUMOURED YOU THIS LONG BUT SHORT OF COMING AND DOING IT FOR YOU THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.

Sorry to everyone else for shouting but hopefully it has been heard this time.

by **digital_blue** » 23 Feb 2005 14:39

Here is a pick of my plug follower. Let me know if you would like an explenation of the special features.

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http://www.dick-blick.com/items/212/03/21203-0049-2-3ww.jpg

by **Peaky** » 23 Feb 2005 14:55

I love the professionaly crafted pocket clip on the end and the secret unauthorised use, detecter (catch them red handed :lol:

),

Lol, i thought my two cupped hands would be sufficient (they were to a point)

So cupped hands then dismantled the lock,
You could always use a finger on your third hand :wink:

by **digital_blue** » 23 Feb 2005 15:05

(This is all I have to say about that)

by **toomush2drink** » 23 Feb 2005 16:07

kevin im at a loss and now in total agreement with mrb. Even if you get it back ogether what chance do you have of picking it ? To be honest im dreading the questions you will ask. :oops:

by **Chucklz** » 23 Feb 2005 17:25

by **Kevin63** » 23 Feb 2005 18:15

Lmao i am a total imbocile i know bu ti know what to use its just ive got a took apart lock staring at me and i dont know how a tube is going to get it back together again.

by **Chucklz** » 24 Feb 2005 0:20

The follower is to keep the springs and top pins in the lock while you dismantle it/put it back together.

by **Kevin63** » 24 Feb 2005 10:52

Ok i have all the pins and springs lyng on the table in front of me with a follower and the rest of the lock, how do i put this back together?

Sorry for the stupid questions but i havnt got a clue!

by **digital_blue** » 24 Feb 2005 11:12

Kevin. Have you read the MIT Guide to Lockpicking? Really? OR have you gone through the info on lockpicking on howstuffworks.com? You are not reassembling two-stroke engine here. It's a freakin' lock. There are only a few pieces!

Shell (Outter casing)
Plug (Roung thing that has the keyhole (we call it a keyway) in it)
A set of driver pins (top pins).
A set of key pins (bottom pins).
A set of springs.

Now how do you suppose this stuff all fits together? I would say that if you don't already know, you obviously don't have a good enough understanding of locks to be able to get this project off. In that case, go back and read those documents I mentioned again. Then try again. THen read again. Then try again. Then read again. Then try again. Then, after failing for the 14th time, take up needlepoint. There is a very nice forum on needlepoint at http://needlepoint.about.com/mpboards.htm where they will be happy to help you.

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by **raimundo** » 24 Feb 2005 11:35

does your follower fit tight in the cylinder, and does it have flat ends, both ends? get a tweezers, and put a tiny nick from a needle file on in the very tip of the tweezer, so that you can hold a pin without it being easily moved from perpendicular position,(groove holds pin in position, but pin should just protrude from the tips of the tweezer on the very end.) put a spring in the middle hole of the cylinder, and with this tweezer, put a top pin in on top of it, the spring will hold the pin out a bit, push the follower in from the end opposite the tweezer, and press the follower against the pin trapping it, let go with the tweezer, and tap the pin into place, cover it with the follower, trappin it , put in the next spring and pin the same way, as you come out of the cylinder one pin at a time. now you have top pins and springs in the cylinder half way, since you started in the middle, slide the follower through so you can see the empty holes from the other end, fill these the same way. now all top pins are in the cylinder, fit the plug to the key with the bottom pins. the plug has a rim on the front of it, so the next step must be made from the front. turn the cylinder so that the line of pins and springs do not line up with the pin in the plug, push the follower out with the back of the plug, as the follower is pushed out and replaced with the plug all the way, turn the plug to align the pins which will now drop in and lock the cylinder. Now you can put the key in and it will open. It can also be done with the key in the plug, and this will eliminate the chance of the lock being locked up with the plug halfway inserted. but if you do lock a plug half way in, you can pick it.

by **Rick-the-Pick** » 24 Feb 2005 18:06

Kevin,
Little ole buddy, you seem to be having difficulties!

Get all your pins and springs together, put them in a bag.
Get some super glue and squeeze it all around the plug! that's the long round tube thingy with holes in.
Stick it inside the shell/casing.
Stick it in a vice and pick it!
Remember what einstein said 'if the facts dont match the theory, change the facts'.

by **Peaky** » 25 Feb 2005 7:31

by **Kevin63** » 26 Feb 2005 21:45

WTF!? lol

I've been gone for a few days as you all might have noticed by am back

I manages to assemble my lock with my teeth and a pir of tweasers. I managed to get one pin in and easily picked the lock. It took me a few days to get that 1 pin in and only for about 3sec of picking pleasure. Now i have to get 2 pins in with a pair of tweasers so i think ill see you lot in a couple of weeks.

by **digital_blue** » 27 Feb 2005 0:20

LMAO. At least the guy knows his limitations. You gotta give credit where credit is due. Kev, good luck buddy. I just hope you don't accidently swallow your pins. Then you'll be in trouble!

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