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 by stick » 9 Mar 2005 20:04
I'd avoid the long hook, as it isn't too useful once you get into tighter keyways. If you live in the US, you could get away without the slimline small hook, but it will make picking some locks MUCH easier. In my experience, the W rake won't fit most locks, so I'd recommend not getting that. If you desperately want a ball rake, get a double only, but you probably won't use them too much. Broken key extractors aren't really used by hobbyists, and the Southord one will prove nearly useless for any case in which you might need it. Your tension wrench selection should be good enough; any others you might need can be easily made.
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by krazy » 9 Mar 2005 20:21
Any other input on this? Id like to get one or two more opinions before I make my final purchase.
Thanks everyone! 
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by Geek142 » 9 Mar 2005 21:32
Hey
In my opinion the only thing a Newb really needs is a Small diamond, Small Hook and medium to light tension wrenchs because its not like there going to start of with hard locks so why need all that extra stuff
because that all i used (still using) when i pick.
But if you feel the need to just get the set so you dont have to upgrade later Go for it! 
Cya There is no spoone
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by krazy » 10 Mar 2005 8:12
what if I do plan on picking some tough locks? 
does that mean i need a totally different set or these sets will do good?
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by stick » 10 Mar 2005 11:33
As long as you stick to pin tumbler locks, which is almost every lock used in the world, those tools will be fine. You may want smaller tools, like the slimlines, but it'll all be pretty much the same.
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by TOWCH » 10 Mar 2005 11:48
stick wrote:I'd avoid the long hook, as it isn't too useful once you get into tighter keyways. If you live in the US, you could get away without the slimline small hook, but it will make picking some locks MUCH easier. In my experience, the W rake won't fit most locks, so I'd recommend not getting that. If you desperately want a ball rake, get a double only, but you probably won't use them too much. Broken key extractors aren't really used by hobbyists, and the Southord one will prove nearly useless for any case in which you might need it. Your tension wrench selection should be good enough; any others you might need can be easily made.
As is, it's useless. But it takes about 30 seconds to trim it down into something that resembles the Peterson Gem, which is my favorite pick.
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by krazy » 10 Mar 2005 12:03
stick wrote:As long as you stick to pin tumbler locks, which is almost every lock used in the world, those tools will be fine. You may want smaller tools, like the slimlines, but it'll all be pretty much the same.
Just curious, where would I encounter such kind of locks? (slimline locks)
Thanks!
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by kehveli » 10 Mar 2005 12:07
krazy wrote:Just curious, where would I encounter such kind of locks? (slimline locks)
They're bascially european locks.
Some euros have very tight keyways and disturbing wardings. A slimline pick (probably short hook) is the tool of choice for these locks. In very thin keyways, self made tools from wire may be used (as told by raimundo).
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by stick » 10 Mar 2005 16:24
Slimlines will come in handy with tighter keyways, from Euro locks to smaller padlocks. They're just nicer to use overall. As for the turning the long hook into a Peterson gem, I can't believe I never thought of that...
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by krazy » 10 Mar 2005 17:27
stick wrote:Slimlines will come in handy with tighter keyways, from Euro locks to smaller padlocks. They're just nicer to use overall. As for the turning the long hook into a Peterson gem, I can't believe I never thought of that...
What is this "Peterson gem" you speak of?
And any other inputs into that pick set list above? 
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by krazy » 10 Mar 2005 17:31
Also, do I need a half-ball pick? double-ended pick? slimline snake?
Im just pulling these from the LP101 Ultimate Startup Kit thread.
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by stick » 10 Mar 2005 18:29
Go to the Peterson website at peterson-international.com. They have a pick that they call the "slender gem", which is basically just a short hook with a point on the tip. Of course, my long hook isn't going to be so slender, so I'll have to fix that too... 
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by krazy » 10 Mar 2005 21:19
Well what does this much extolled Peterson gem do?
And how is my pick list above ^^^^?
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