Ingersoll SC1 mystery

by **Ivan** » 9 Dec 2003 8:36

A little while back on UK telly - a program illustrating rogue locksmiths had their expert open a Ingersoll SC1 in the time it takes the camera to pan away and pan back.

I can recall a very frustrating hour or two trying to get into one of these beasts and in the end had to manipulate the lever through a hole in the door - I'd never have gotten away with it if it was deadlocked.

The only way I can see the expert getting through it within 15 seconds is by using the key. Am I woefully uninformed - is it possible??

Ivan

by **Varjeal** » 15 Dec 2003 15:35

Got a link to that lock? 15seconds sounds pretty fast, but I could prep a lock to open within that amount of time pretty easy.

by **Chubby** » 15 Dec 2003 15:43

Ingersol SC1 is a 10 lever high security lock, saying that I've seen some germans open all sorts within 60 seconds (an awful lot within 30), with the right tools of course, so I imagine it's possible...the only difference is they were quite happy to show you what they were doing and with what...no shame*Sigh!*

by **Varjeal** » 15 Dec 2003 15:54

Ahh...that's for the clarification...interesting...well. I'm sure almost any lock could be prepped to open quickly. Should've had someone in the audience bring one and let 'em have at it. Hehehe..you'd be amazed how much a little pressure changes the picking times.

by **cred** » 16 Dec 2003 5:17

there is a pick specially made for that lock, but you still have to drill the lock to use it,and it won't work if the lock's been deadlocked :wink:

by **Chubby** » 16 Dec 2003 9:28

there is a pick specially made for that lock, but you still have to drill the lock to use it,and it won't work if the lock's been deadlocked

Sorry Cred but I can't quite make any sense of your post, have you a hyper link to somewhere on the net/or could you explain what it is that you've heard/seen... :wink:

by **cred** » 16 Dec 2003 13:27

the suppliers of this opening tool's website is under construction, but this is what they say about this tool. A USEFUL AND WELL PROVEN WAY OF EASILY OPENING THE INGERSOLL SC71 TYPE LOCKS UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. BY DRILLING A SMALL HOLE (WHICH CAN BE EASILY AND UNCONSPICUOUSLY PLUGGED AFTER OPENING),THIS TOOL WILL ENABLE THE LOCKSMITH TO QUICKLY OPERATE THE HAND LEVER. VERY LITTLE TRAINING NEEDED/TAKES ONLY MOMENTS TO SUCCEED. P.S THE TOOL CANNOT WORK IF THE LOCK HAS BEEN DEADLOCKED BY EXTERNAL USE OF THE KEY.
hope this makes it a little clearer
ray :wink:

by **Varjeal** » 16 Dec 2003 13:29

That sounds like the infamous stealthbypasstools.com site... :roll:

by **cred** » 16 Dec 2003 13:42

they are called www.soubertools.co.uk

by **Varjeal** » 16 Dec 2003 13:55

My bad...it was the all caps and bad spelling that misled me.

by **Chubby** » 16 Dec 2003 14:55

Thanks Cred...My Mul-T-Lock pin in pin picks are made by Soubertools, I bought them from another source, never thought of looking them up on the net (Duh!) if thier picks are anything to go by it should be a very interesting site to visit.
P.S*Truth is I never search for anything ending in .co.uk*

by **cred** » 16 Dec 2003 15:42

how is the mul-t lock pick set was thinking of getting one and how are they to open

by **Chubby** » 16 Dec 2003 16:59

The pick set is ok does the job but is overpriced for what you get, using them is pretty wierd after picking standard locks for so long, it took me about twenty minutes before I could find the pins with the picks let alone lift them, as for opening...it would be easier to shove a pound of lard up a gnats arse with a hot needle...this is not for the faint hearted, but as with everything practice makes perfect, and your going to need a lot of practice with these...

by **Ivan** » 17 Dec 2003 6:31

Varjeal - you wanted a link to it - try:-

http://www.locksonline.co.uk/acatalog/R ... s__2_.html

Third wee beastie down - page looks like its straight out of the aldridge catalogue. Theres a slightly better piccy in the ingersoll catalogue - downloadable at www.ingersolllocks.co.uk/pdf/ingersoll01.pdf.

I've seen the tool in the souber catalogue for bypassing this, i wonder how more effective it is than the method I finally used - drill thru door then use a car opening tool with an elastic band attached (who says the mafeking spirit is dead). Deadlocked and all bets would be off I think.

Chubbys' lard sounds about right with this one.

by **Varjeal** » 17 Dec 2003 11:00

Ivan: I'm guessing here but from the looks of the key I would suggest that this is a bidirectional wafer lock. Other than a tight keyway, this shouldn't be that difficult to manipulate.

It doesn't appear to be a lever lock at all. In fact, I'm sure the one in your link isn't.

Hope that helps.

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