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re keying a lock

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

Postby vantito » 18 Mar 2005 23:15

ok i've decided to try to file the pin instead of dremel because a. brass is soft it wont take as long as steel would b. more control c. cause i feel like it
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Postby vantito » 18 Mar 2005 23:27

ok peeps fileing is very slow and tedious work.... specially with this because u have to do it super slow and super acurate, people please dont be like me and have to do everything yourself just go out and buy a different lock or some new pins
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Postby BrownDwarf » 19 Mar 2005 1:12

Perhaps too late to mention it now, but couldn't you have accomplished your goal -- making the lock a bit different -- by just changing the order of the pins around?
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Postby master in training » 19 Mar 2005 8:19

i asked that, apparently all the pins are of a similar length.

you could try using a fairly smooth sandpaper Vantito, it may help to deburr the pins and get them looking more like they were before.

i would probably say buy a new lock at this point, but you've worked hard on it, so stick with it and tell us how it turned out :)

next time you get a lock, look through a few first and find one with as many differences in pin height as possible (the key will go like \/\/\/\/ on the pin that touches the pins) :wink:

theres a make of Yale called barricade i think it is, they're basically yale locks under a different name and a lot cheaper, but they come with a security pin, you can take it out and learn to pick without it, then as you get beter add it back in, this will help your picking progress a lot!
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Postby vantito » 19 Mar 2005 14:07

cool, ive figured out the perfect way to shorten the pins, its dort of like relatheing them, i just took one of the pins put it in a drill and either with a file or some sand paperi turned on the dril put the file on the pin, kept it at an angle so it would stay somewhat rounded and walah
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Postby Buggs41 » 19 Mar 2005 14:16

Let the tools do the work for you! :D
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Postby vantito » 19 Mar 2005 14:38

aint dat what it about?
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Postby master in training » 19 Mar 2005 14:59

yeah, its best not to press too hard anyway, especially with power tools, the disks tend to snap off and hit you! :wink:
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Postby tri-city » 26 Mar 2005 19:31

you guys it is possible to re pin a lock but first if you have no key then you have to pick it when you have accomplished this you then by keeping the barrel turned you pull out the key cylinder. do this in a box otherwise you'll have pins and springs flying everywhere. which they will do. now you have to rebuild it. if you can come up with a key that fits the keyway ,, you then put yhe pins in the cylinder, if you cannot get the pins to run flush with the shearline then you have to file the longer ones down. never use pins that are to short as the top row of pins will always block the shear line. once you have done that you will need to make yourself a plug follower, this can be done by using a peice of dowling the same size or a little smaller than the diametre of the cylinder whole in the body of the lock. it needs to be about 4 inches long, then cut a small notch in one end of the dowling so that the round face end of it has a groove from top to bottom through it, all the way through the middle.
put the follower to the back of the lock and drop a spring in so the sping falls into the groove , then line the groove up with the back whole in the body, now push the spring in the whole, then drop the top pin in and push that in as well . use a small screw driver to do this. hold them both in with the screw driver then push the plug follower forward one notch to the number 4 pin or the 2nd from the back and do the same 1st spring then top pin then go to whole number 3 then number 2 then number1 until you have the follower all the way through the barrel of the lock. now you need a shim which is a very thin peice of metal about 2 inches long and 1/4 inch wide and very thin. you slide the shim between the top pins in the barrell and the dowling follower so that as you push the key cylinder back in you dont lose what you have accomplished.
hold the lock in one hand, follower and all. pick up the key cylinder and insert the cylinder slowly into the barrell, at the same time keeping the shimin place directly under the top pins" you must try to keep the shim in place"
slowly replace the follower with the key way cylinder, by pushing the follower out with it . remember the important thing is to keep your shim in place so that non of the top pins drop into the lower pin wholes. when you have replaced the whole of the plug follower( the dowling rod ) with the key cylinder you can the take out the shim allowing the top pins to drop into there bottom counerparts. when you insert the key it will push the bottom pins up to the shear line allowing the keyway to turn freely "walla"

i hope you have fun digesting this as it is a bit longwinded but pretty accurate if you ask me. if you want a lesson on picking josh the offers still there. i'll show you this as well as picking cylinders and the like . ive got picks you can use. remember " what goes around, comes around "
and thats a very true saying

good luck
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learning to be a locksmith is like an oblique curve it will never come full circle!!!
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source for pins

Postby keysman » 27 Mar 2005 3:16

Got to ANY keyshop and ask for some used pins, they will have a bucket of them.

TRY locksmiths, school maintance shop,hospital maintance shop, home depot hardware section or any place that can/will rekey locks.
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