creative thinkers help out

[EricM]

The other problem is finding a drill with the lightest clutch ever seen, because as those light settings are for putting screws down and not stripping them, I feel the biggest problem would be that the clutch wouldn't be light enough because it would always jam the cylinder and not allow the pins to move.

and I find this kinda funny, because I feel on occasion if this is made, people by accident may leave a clutch setting a tad to high I shred the picking tip in the lock because the lock doesn't turn. heheh

[capt.dunc]

i was thinking on this idea of a tool that bumps then turns, ie free float the pins and then twist the cylinder. a bump key tip would seem a good idea since it fits the keyway and provides a good handle to turn, but then a problem occurred to me, different locks will require a different time delay between the actions. hmm. problems. other than that i'd been thinking of a wound spring to provide the turn, with a cog and ratchet so it'll turn so far and lock back off, so you do have to wind the thing every time,sort of like the way a clock does but bigger steps. i was also thinking of working the whole system via a lever handle and base plate on the door. so it's not a fiddly tool to use you'd just fit the correct tip, put it in place and click, click, click.

[Peaky]

Just a quick note,

I tried an old black and decker battery drill that had a torque adjuster on it, knocked up a simple pick blade and had a go,

I can open the cylinder i tried, it didnt have any spool pins but it was the first one i picked up, i didnt try turning it as well i used a separate tensioner all i wanted to do was check there was enough vibration,

When i have time i will make up the proper fork thing and have another go,

At least i know it rattles the pins enough to hit the shear line.

[tri-city]

there's a rearly interesting book by a man called john minnery, called "lock picking for spies, cops, and loclsmiths" its got some good ideas on wire made pick guns and one on a gun that has a tension wrench, this one is electric though. the isbn n. is 0-87364-510-3 if anyone is interested.

[Peaky]

Sounds good, any chance of posting a pic of the gun and tensioner all in one? it may just help the jucies get flowing again on this subject.

[tri-city]

sorry ive just tried to scan the pick . it is an old drawing like a draughts mans drawing and you couldn't see it. if anyone else has got the book the pics are on pages 94-97. i think it's because the scanner is a cheap one.

[glasskey]

I saw my first snap gun last weekend, it was not really what I had expected. I had invisioned something that bounced up and down repeatedly with one pull of the triger. If you consider the toy guns that are shaped the same that spin a wheel inside that shoot sparks. if you were to take the wheel that spins against the flint to make the sparks, and made this wheel oblong you would get several bumps of the pick blade with each pull of the triger. (or load and snap effects), Am I making any sense ?

[Peaky]

Good idea but not the right way to go about it,

A rectangle wheel will soon become round when bounced against a pick blade repeatedly,

You could however offset the round wheel and make it like a proper electric pick gun, i love the idea.

Leave the flint in as well, the look on you customers face when you pull a bright green and red martian gun out of your bag and when you are useing it at the door it makes zapping noises and flashes up with light great stuff, its almost as funny as turning up with your missus's rampent rabbit and sticking that in the door

I will have a look at my local toy shop and see whats on offer because as i say i love the idea and im all for using human power.

As a note incase you didnt know an electric pick often has an electric motor of which has an unbalenced weight attached to the pinion (basically a round bit that has been mounted off centre so it acts like a cam and also vibrates, this then hits a pivoted lever of which the other end has the pick blade attached.

[glasskey]

Another thought, what about a door bell with the hammer arm shaped into a pick, but would probably need a way to adjust the vibrations

[Peaky]

The way the door bell works is with a coil, a refined version of this is what my electric pick is about, you will find not enough force is put out of a standard door bell to make a pick work properly.

[tri-city]

if you go to asda they are selling a black and decker screw driver for £12 this is the exact copy of hpc's elec but needs some adjusting ????? has anyone taken one apart and are they easy to copy? because for £12 thats one cheap pick. i paid £166 for mine so im not going to take it apart until it goes to the graveyard.

[tri-city]

i think i'll try and see if they have any left and buy a couple. could someone tell me how to turn one into a pick because i wouldnt know were to start

[Peaky]

You will have to bite the bullet and take yours apart, it was put together so should come apart the same way,

Look through skolds threads, he posted some pics a while back of the insides of one.

[tri-city]

just bought three £12 aech, so i couldn't resist it. i'm going to take the driver apart not the pick, too expensive!! i'd like to find the post skolds made on the insides though ... i'll try and pm him and see if he'll help.

[Peaky]

Unfortunatley Skold has now left the site,

Use the search button to find the threads instead of mythering people to find them for you!