Let's have a list of 'motivational' locks!

by **Areomyst** » 22 Dec 2003 16:23

G'day folks.

Watched a video the other day, and the gentleman in the said clip mentioned a "909" lock. The said that it's a fairly easy lock to compromise, and that people use it for motivational lock. (Ie, can't pick a harder lock, so go back to the easy one and get that "I can do it!" attitude back in yer brain.

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So why not compile a list of general "motivational" locks that can be easily obtained eh?

I personally cannot think of a particular name brand or whatnot, that I've found exceedingly easy to pick. Hopefully someone else has?

Let's hear 'em friends!

~Josh

by **Varjeal** » 22 Dec 2003 17:51

I have two "motivational" locks. One is a "specially prepared" Weiser, and the other is a 4 pin filing cabinet lock.

I rekeyed the Weiser to have a "descending order" of pin lengths..verrrry easy to pick.

I don't think you can actually pick a brand, but most desk wafer locks are very easy.

by **CitySpider** » 22 Dec 2003 23:35

Master padlocks, pin tumbler. The bigger and nastier looking, the better, since they mostly use the same cylinder. It's a much bigger confidence boost to pick the Hardcorest Lock in the Land than it is to pick a #3.

by **Luke** » 22 Dec 2003 23:44

I think it goes by the name of BDS, total crap, bloody cheap and easy to pick - just a note, BDS locks have nothing printed on the front of the cylinder, only on the keys.

by **Chucklz** » 23 Dec 2003 16:51

Kwikset leaps to mind. Corbin Cabinet Lock also makes a nice wafer padlock. Padlocks are really nice for confidence...... you get to hear that nice snap as it opens.

by **David_Parker** » 24 Dec 2003 1:21

Padlocks....by far, are great.
You can take them anywhere, and the spring loaded shackle, springing open is relieving like no other. They surely inspire and give me the confidence I need when I seem to be down on my luck towards picking. They're sort of like 'warm-up's.

-Dave.

by **Areomyst** » 24 Dec 2003 15:26

Hrm... Sounds good so far.

How bout any particular lock that's very easy to take apart for showing, etc?

~Josh

by **Varjeal** » 24 Dec 2003 16:35

That's an easy question. Mortise cylinders, key-in-knob cylinders, and rekeyable padlock cylinders.

by **Chucklz** » 24 Dec 2003 16:59

The Abus rekeyable padlocks that have "House lock" keyways, ie Schlage C, Kwikset, Weiser.... are fun to pick,are up to 6 pin, and rekey easily. The problem however is that they do contain some spool pins, but these of course can be removed and added for more of a challenge. You can get one for about 10 - 20 $ American.

by **Areomyst** » 24 Dec 2003 21:34

Chucklz wrote:The Abus rekeyable padlocks that have "House lock" keyways, ie Schlage C, Kwikset, Weiser.... are fun to pick,are up to 6 pin, and rekey easily. The problem however is that they do contain some spool pins, but these of course can be removed and added for more of a challenge. You can get one for about 10 - 20 $ American.

Sweet.

I'll check these out.

Varjealhow much will a Mortise lock or two run me do you think?

I need a lot of practice, and I'm trying to find it in ways other than saying "Okay, I'ma go outside, and you lock the door. I'll come back in when I get teh lock open..." It's getting kinda chilly out.

~Josh

by **Varjeal** » 24 Dec 2003 22:27

Coming soon I'll be having "training packages" available for a reasonable cost. The package will consist of a lock cylinder, plug follower, instructions, and a variety of pins including mushroom and serrated pins, as well as various lengths of bottoms pins so that you can "customize" your own practice lock.

In the meantime, rekeyable padlocks are your easiest source for cylinders.

by **Luke** » 25 Dec 2003 3:11

Varjeal, Jeeze what an idea, i will do the same.
For Australians in the new year i will be offering practice kits, a bit like Varjeals. A cylinder prepared in a way it will be easy to pick, a cylinder prepared so it will be "so, so" to pick and a cylinders thats a pain to pick. I will only be offering Spool Pins, as for a little set of em it aint that cheap. You will have your choice of lock, El Cheapo or Lockwood. Lockwood will be "a bit" more expensive. These cylinders will be sold seperately, so as you progress you can get a new cylinder, or send back your old cylinder and i will rekey and place in Spool Pins and all that. I will include instructions on how to take apart the cylinder, where to purchase a plug follower and Pin Tweasers.
This idea will most likely go ahead, if not, its because im Lazy.
Cheers,
Luke

by **Grudge** » 25 Dec 2003 23:45

I am particularly fond of the Brinks House Key Padlock (part # 101-45091) available from Walmart. It is designed to be re-keyed to match your Quikset home key. It comes with a set of various pins and a key decoder. The core removes easily with the included hex wrench. No follower is needed for pin changes since pre-drilled holes are provided in the bottom of the cylinder shell.

The lock itself uses 5 pins (some with spool drivers) although it is drilled for 6 pins. My suggestion is that you buy 2 locks and use one for spare parts. That way you can build anything from a 1 pin with a standard driver (can't get much easier than that) to a 6 pin with all spools if you like. Just going through this break-down and rebuild process was an invaluable learning tool for me.

If you change out the drivers, here are some hints that worked out for me. First, remove all of the pins (they fall out of the bottom holes when you rotate the core). Then you will need to depress the pin sticking out of the rear of the cylinder. Once depressed you can unscrew the ring holding the cylinder in place. Make sure you retain the rear pin and spring when you get the ring off! Then, when you remove the core, slowly pull it out so each spring and driver pop out one at a time. You can use a toothpick to control the driver flying out so it doesn't land across the room . After all of the springs and drivers are out (and the core is removed) you can reassemble the lock by working from the front (where the key goes in) to the back. Use a toothpick and insert it into the holes drilled in the bottom of the shell down into the driver 'well'. Drop the spring down the toothpick and it lands right into the 'well' each time. Then use tweezers (regular ones will do, I am sure the locksmith variety are better) push the driver into the 'well' compressing the spring. Then slide the core back in as you push the pin down so eventually the core covers the driver and keeps it in place (this is tricky!). Continue this process untill all of the springs and drivers are replaced for the number of pins you want to use. Reload the pins, and you are done.

by **Biff** » 25 Dec 2003 23:53

Any deadbolt with all but 1 pin removed

by **Chucklz** » 26 Dec 2003 15:29

Grudge, The Abus padlock sounds very similar to the Brinks. I suspect the same style padlock is available from Master as well.

Varjeal/Luke/Anyone in the UK/ Europe Do you all think we could somehow find a way to kinda save on shipping and maby get some "foreign" locks to people around the world?

Let's have a list of 'motivational' locks!

Let's have a list of 'motivational' locks!

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