weird lock

[CSballer89]

the place where i work recently did not have the keys to a few of our arcade machines... seems the owner took them with her. but theres a normal padlock on the first hole then underneath that is a lock that has pins on both sides? i was dumbfounded at this since ive never seen anything like it before... does anybody have any ideas on how to get this open? owner doesnt get back until next friday and we need to not only empty the machines but use the quarters as well for change for the machines

[Exodus5000]

Could it be a double wafer lock you're talking about?
http://www.fortliberty.org/locks/secret ... ml#lock_id (object C in the diagram under lock identification)

That would be my best guess. Maybe you can come up with a company name on the lock?

[locksmistress]

Sigh.

Your tenses confuse me. I do not know if this issue is ongoing for you or if you have temporarily resolved it.

I don't think there's anyone here who can (or will try) to teach you how to open up a coin box lock on an arcade machine - or multiple machines - fast enough or easy enough to make a difference in the time frame you're looking at.

Also, at the place you are working currently? Developing and practicing the technique of picking open the coin boxes on the machines in your place of employ will probably not actually impress your management and may in fact compromise your immediate job security.

So, you'll probably have to call whatever manager is higher up and or a locksmith.

How big was the key ring? If the manager has 3 or 4 keys for all the machines then they may have aftermarket cylinders keyed alike to the owners system - you may be able to get keys from another franchise? Overnighted from 2 counties over or something.

If the manager had 12 or 20 keys it becomes more likely that the machines are keyed by their manufacturer and then... it's a bit more hopeless.

The unfortunate thing is that you are going to have a hard time convincing a locksmith to open a bunch of arcade machines if you are not a manager. So if that's what you have to do - call a locksmith - make sure that you are armed with as many forms of id and official authorization as possible.

Unfortunately that's probably the only way to get the things open and keep your job and also not get arrested.

Good luck.

[CaptHook]

Seems if the owner wanted the boxes emptied, or thought the employees needed access, the owner would have left the keys.
Chuck

[NKT]

I agree you might get some serious comeback if you play with the locks.

I also agree that if the owner wanted you to empty the machines while you were away, she would (probably) have left them.

However, assuming she forgot, why don't you just call her and ask what she wants done? I doubt you could get into the machines without powertools, unless you are pretty skilled.

[rayman452]

I can get into locks without powertools. I just use a .45 special H&K USP, or some of my best friend, C4.


But for non-distructive, try shimming it or sit there for hours picking/raking it. You may get lucky.

[NKT]

The H&K is a power tool. For sure! I'm not sure a .45 would do much to a good steel lock, though. Might want to up-gun to something like a .308 Winchester with a copper jacketed bullet, or even a 30-06 with an AP bullet. Otherwise you get a load of soft lead stuck in the lock, which a sub-sonic bullet would probably just dent slightly.

C4 alone would "cut" it. But better to use a small shaped charge, otherwise you will not actually cut the metal, and get more of a tear, which won't be properly focused on the lock. For very small shaped charges, try using the empty copper jackets off an FMJ.

[Heliox]

There's no such thing as a .45 special. You mean .45 ACP or .45 auto.
Perhaps you mean a .45 long colt, but that's a revolver caliber not a HK USP caliber.

[HeadHunterCEO]

picture of the keyway please

[Vek]

There's no such thing as a .45 special. You mean .45 ACP or .45 auto.
Perhaps you mean a .45 long colt, but that's a revolver caliber not a HK USP caliber.

But why use a .45 when you can use a .50?

Better yet, pull out the 12 Gauge Sabot Shell loaded Shotgun. *nods*

[jamo]

use the thermite reaction basically get a tray with aluminum powder (very fine) touching the lock mix in loads of rust or iron oxide then stand well back and set light to it it will melt the lock off

don't quote me as im not supposed to tell anyone about this

[NKT]

Your rite. Thermite is a top secrit invention that the railway polis gaurd jealously. You must be ultra1337 to have even heard of it.

Thermite is not going to get you into a steel lock in a hurry, unless you don't care about burning down the building. Particularly if it is a vertically mounted lock. It will, however, leave lots of melted brass bits mixed with tiny balls of iron in the keyway - ensures you lose your job, either way.

Thermite is like Hitler - the moment you mention it, you have lost the argument, and any respect, in a thread.

[jamo]

the reason i am not supposed to say is coz my chem teacher told us not to spread it around and he was the one that told me about this site. I have only used it once outside class and i managed to weld a set of gates together with a chain coz the padlock was lost and it needed securing but we have broken into locks in class with it



and it was a joke!!

[digital_blue]

[HeadHunterCEO]

thats cool^