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Postby Elijah » 15 Apr 2005 23:04

Hey digital, it's been months since I've posted here and I've been forced to make a new handle since i forgot ALL the information for my old one. I like your new signature, much better than the old one! That picture was hilarious as well, I gave it to me boss and he put it up in the office!
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Postby MrB » 15 Apr 2005 23:23

jamo wrote:the reason i am not supposed to say is coz my chem teacher told us not to spread it around and he was the one that told me about this site. I have only used it once outside class and i managed to weld a set of gates together with a chain coz the padlock was lost and it needed securing but we have broken into locks in class with it

They are obviously trying to make chemistry fun again. For a long time it seemed that flashes, bangs and smells were being discouraged for health and safety reasons.
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Postby vector40 » 16 Apr 2005 3:36

I just caught Fight Club again recently, and I notice that they said someone sprayed Freon into the narrator's lock and tapped it with a hammer. Wonder if that would work.
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Postby NKT » 16 Apr 2005 4:36

Freon (or any other very cold liquid) can work. It depends if the lock is going to be compromised by it, though. Some steels lose a lot of strength when very cold, and so can be made to shatter - it was a problem a long time ago, when metallurgy wasn't nearly as good as it is now. As far as I know, brass doesn't have this issue.

Freeze burns are nasty.

As for the "0 days" things, well, it is genius!

And as for the Thermite/teacher thing, he probably realises he could get into trouble for showing the true power of chemistry like that, and hence has asked that you don't tell the police when you get caught burning locks off cars (!)
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thermite....

Postby Blunt4sTrauma » 5 May 2005 20:08

Way back when I was a kid I had a highschool chem teacher who decided to show us the thermite reaction. He got a bucket of we sand and put it on his bench/desk, poured in the mix, lit up some mag, and let it go. I can still see it like it was last week. Melted down into the sand. Then in melted into the desktop. Then I'll assume it made it through the benchtop (which was that black asbestos containing stuff), because that is when smoke started to appear and the fire alarm went off. So we left. Turns out the reaction burned all the way down into the slab the room was built on. Nice. Needless to say, I got a new chem teacher.


I guess the cold thing does work, I know lots of bike locks get cracked this way, but don't know how it is done or care to learn.
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Postby NKT » 6 May 2005 10:40

Unless he filled the bucket with Thermite, I can't see how that could happen.

I know the k3wl websites and books say you can burn through a car engine block with a pile the size of a 50p/dollar coin, but you can't.

It will melt sand, but only just. It turns into glass. You do wind up with a nice pool of molten "steel" - iron and aluminium and whatever else is in the rust you used, but the burn times are so quick it doesn't have time to do that much, and then starts cooling pretty quickly. I hope you all had welding goggles to wear, too?

It will burn through wood, but only slowly, since there's no air there, so it has to burn the carbon formed away without making CO2. A thick bit of wood, like a desk, would be scorched hard, but probably wouldn't ever go through. The Chinese use 8" thick oak slabs to go through re-entry on their satellites, don't ya know.

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Postby digital_blue » 6 May 2005 14:44

:lol: They're policing themselves now....

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Postby GateTwelve » 6 May 2005 16:23

Sorry kid, hundreds of thousands of people know the exact recipe that your teacher taught you. You have not entered the realm of, like NKT said, u83r31337. This will lead to my hatred towards the "anarchist" cookbook. There's more rumors, wivestales, and stereotypes in there than in all of the 007 movies, Triple X, and all other actions movies combined.

Thank you, Blunt4sTrauma, for warning us all about what your teacher did. As soon as I post this, I'm moving even farther away from you, because by now that thermite has to be getting close the center of the world, causing loads of red-hot lava to pour out onto the surface of the earth. Unless of course he really did use a fifty cent piece size pile of thermite in which case there should be enough left to vaporize the earth's core... But again, thanks for the warning.
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Postby Mad Mick » 6 May 2005 19:20

I must admit, after following a link to the Anarchist's cookbook and reading about thermite (there DB, I've said it again!! Thermite, thermite, thermite :P ) I tried it....and the result was amazing. I was amazed that I followed the instructions and it didn't work. So I started from scratch again, reversed the polarity of the battery, and hey presto...it still didn't work! I can normally understand simple instructions, so obviously my TV, VCR, Cable box, Hi-Fi, PC, PS1, PS2, camera, sneakers etc. all work fine. :?

Oh, wait. Are they serious when they say 'Do not eat' on those little silica gel packages?
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Postby GateTwelve » 6 May 2005 21:35

Sorry, I just really hate all the editions of Anarchist Cookbook. Everything contained within is just rubbish. How to make C4 out of bleach, "high-quality napalm", and my favorite is the nitroglycerin recipe. I give it two severed thumbs up. It's pure trashed wrapped in "i+ wi11 m4k3 y0u L337!!!1 +0 kN0w +34 53cr3+5!!"
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Postby NKT » 7 May 2005 6:48

The Nitro recipe is actually one of the few things in there that is correct. It just omits some very important details, like how to not kill yourself.

Affectionally known as "cr@pbooks" in many circles, they are a great way to hurt yourself.

A lot of the claims are overblown, the dangers are understated (if mentioned at all), and most of the stuff in there will get you arrested. :roll:
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antichrist cookbook

Postby raimundo » 7 May 2005 8:26

The antichrist cookbook has been around since the nixon era, the nitroglycerin recipe is more or less correct, what you make will be nitro, and you will probably kill yourself making it. as someone.. NKT? posted. that book was probably written to deliberately kill anyone who tried it. A sort of agentprovocateur book, and the methods for making nitro have been around since the 1860's so it wasn't like any secret information was being given out. In fact, the secrets that were kept were all about how to do it with some safty. When the Union Pacific railroad was being built through the sierras, the nitro for tunneling was cooked on the spot in a railroad car. they lost a lot of the cooks and handlers. railroad cars too.
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Postby Mad Mick » 7 May 2005 17:15

GateTwelve wrote:I give it two severed thumbs up.


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